The Mirrorless Shootout

Coleslaw (e2 Member)

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16 May 2011 - 7:10 PM

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As I have just got a Samsung NX100, I have been thinking if I should sell it and get an Olympus EPL1.
I found this review which is quite interesting.
However, I still couldn't decide what I should do....

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16 May 2011 - 7:49 PM

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Hi Cole.

Given that you do great work with your dSLR, I am a wee bit surprised that you have been attracted to either of those CSCs.

I can see the attraction of looking for a smaller, slimmer, lighter camera as an option to a regular dSLR but, as I am currently weighing up the same options, I have come to the conclusion that neither CSCs or "bridge" cameras fit the bill.

Basically, if I need something that avoids the weight and bulk of my dSLR, then I need something sufficiently compact and portable to slip easily into a shirt pocket. Both the CSC ranges and the "bridge"ranges seem to fail miserably against that criterion and I have tended to look at either the (overpriced) Leica or Fuji X100 type or, more pragmatically, at the new £250 type of advanced compact with fast lenses such as the Samsung EX1 or the Lumix LX5.

Coleslaw (e2 Member)

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16 May 2011 - 8:03 PM

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Hi Paul, I know those threads.
LF, I won the camera. Though I have been considering them for when photography isn't the main focus when going out. I have had compacts but never pleased with the IQ and ISO performance especially.

Paul Morgan (e2 Member)

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16 May 2011 - 8:19 PM

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You un grateful so and so, just send it to me

Carabosse (e2 Member)

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17 May 2011 - 1:14 AM

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To be honest I'm thinking what my Canon 5D II (currently loaned out) will give me, when I get it back, which my Olympus E-PL2 cannot give me. Better video is all I can think of at the moment.

I am currently giving the Oly a good test out - including high ISO stuff (up to 6400) - and I am starting to think the DSLR may become semi-redundant.

But Eric is right about non-pocketability. I was intending to sell my compact but have decided to retain it for now.

Carabosse (e2 Member)

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18 May 2011 - 12:25 PM

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Perhaps a good criterion is how much use you make of your DSLR and whether you tend to leave it at home because of its bulk and weight - and sometimes regret having done so.

That has been an issue for me since I bought my first film SLR, with 3 lenses, many years ago. Which is what makes M4/3 attractive. If is not an issue for you and your are content with your current equipment, you can just sell the Samsung and spend the money on high living! (Or a new widget for your DSLR kit).

Carabosse (e2 Member)

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18 May 2011 - 12:46 PM

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With the E-PL2, essentially similar to the E-PL1, I have been using ISO 1600 quite happily. But you do need to shoot in RAW at that ISO level... the JPEG engine doesn't quite cut it although it is fine at ISO 800 and lower.

If you tend to shoot in RAW anyway, that won't be an issue. I am using RAW only on the E-PL2 now, having experimented with JPEG; it's easier to 'set and forget' so to speak.

strawman (e2 Member)

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18 May 2011 - 12:52 PM

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Since I bought an S95 I have been leaving my SLR at home quite a lot as I find up to ISO800 it is acceptable and the clincher is that because I can use it @ f2 it is comparable to running my DSLR at least two ISO stop faster (the depth of field at f2 on the compact looks close to f8 on my crop dSLR). Even if I stop at ISO 400 that is ISO1600 equivalent in the SLR. And I find I need no more than f4. The DSLR has advantages in low light and also action/long lens/wide angle lens situations, but for 70% of what I do the compact is good enough and its so small it fits in my pocket and I still get to shoot in RAW etc.

To be honest I am wondering if I should sell all my lenses except 10-20 and 100-400. I looked at M4/3 and will probably look again, the problem for me is it was not small enough in the same way that Canon's G series is not small enough.

I would expect ISO1600 to be achievable from the samsung, but we all have our views on what is or is not acceptable.