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themak
themak  154 forum posts Scotland
29 Aug 2014 - 11:01 AM

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Chris_L
Chris_L e2 Member 891 forum postsChris_L vcard United Kingdom
29 Aug 2014 - 12:14 PM

According to your flag you're in Scotland, home of the deep-fried Mars bar. The question is "what is your view on use of low /no cal soft drinks as part of a diet" Grin

themak
themak  154 forum posts Scotland
29 Aug 2014 - 12:19 PM

Obviously I only drink whisky with my Mars bars.

Chris_L
Chris_L e2 Member 891 forum postsChris_L vcard United Kingdom
29 Aug 2014 - 12:57 PM

Joking aside it's ironic that I grew up in the era of "A Mars A Day Helps You Work Rest and Play", days when the Coca-Cola Company formulated a diet cola and called it Tab as they didn't think it tasted good enough to wear the Coke brand.

Clinically obese people had yet to be invented. In order to see them we'd need to watch a documentary about the US.

Now maybe you're thinking then we got McDonald's (and KFC, Burger King etc); we did but also more and more of us stopped cooking our own meals from scratch and came to rely more upon Iceland and the takeaway.

McDonald's is an easy target, it's my local pizza shop where I see overweight people buying their evening meal. We changed our lifestyles and that's what made us overweight. Not the saccharin.

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themak
themak  154 forum posts Scotland
29 Aug 2014 - 1:47 PM

Despite being one of the oldest fast foods, I don't think pizza is inherently unhealthy (unless you count that other great scottish invention, the deep-fried-in-batter chocolate and lard pizza). Trouble is, those people you think are buying their evening meal are in fact getting extra 'snacks' as a pastime.

mikehit
mikehit  56470 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
29 Aug 2014 - 2:02 PM


Quote: Despite being one of the oldest fast foods, I don't think pizza is inherently unhealthy


Have you seen the amount of grease in one of those? The pizza is no less healthy or unhealthy as the snacks you refer to - it is the total calorie burden. But as an indicator of the general problem the pizza is as valid as MacDonalds or chocolate.


Quote: Those people you think are buying their evening meal are in fact getting extra 'snacks' as a pastime

And you know this how....

altitude50
altitude50  101868 forum posts United Kingdom
29 Aug 2014 - 2:28 PM

When I was growing up in the forties and fifties there were very few overweight people to be seen. An exception was one of my uncles who spent his evenings in the pub.

We, as a family of four never bought beer, spirits, fizzy soft drinks, crisps, snacks nor ready meals (they were not available anyway) nor sliced bread. What came into the house as food for a week (quite normal) a modern couple would get through in two or three days.

themak
themak  154 forum posts Scotland
29 Aug 2014 - 2:29 PM


Quote: And you know this how....



I was behind you in the queue.

Last Modified By themak at 29 Aug 2014 - 2:30 PM
mikehit
mikehit  56470 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
29 Aug 2014 - 2:52 PM

Cheeky GrinGrin

parallax
parallax e2 Member 5116 forum postsparallax vcard United Kingdom
29 Aug 2014 - 4:04 PM

Pizza is not unhealthy in it's original form. It had a very thin base often just with cheese, tomatoes, herbs and olive oil - a very simple dish and quite healthy often eaten by people who worked on the land who need something quick and tasty.

Over many years via the US - it has morphed into a mattress like base with piles of greasy crap slurped all over it.

Anyway I digress...

If you consume too many soft drinks either 'full fat' or with artificial sweeteners you'll suffer the consequences. You've only got to look to the US (and increasingly the UK),
it's self evident.

themak
themak  154 forum posts Scotland
29 Aug 2014 - 4:09 PM


Quote: It had a very thin base often just with cheese, tomatoes, herbs and olive oil -

I'm hungry.

arhb
arhb e2 Member 72273 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
29 Aug 2014 - 4:14 PM

Don't get me started in Jamie Oliveoil -
it might be cheap Jamie, with healthy ingredients, but you throw olive oil at every ingredient you use before mixing them together, and then add more!!!

Bless...

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315362 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
29 Aug 2014 - 4:20 PM

If the myth is that an underactive thyroid will make you gain weight then I agree with you, but there is a recognised correlation where an unexpected weight gain will suggest to a physisican that the patient may have a thyroid disorder worthy of further testing.

They don`t always check for the most obvious, weight gained before diagnosis is often difficult to loose once your put on the right medication, it has something to do with metabolic resistance and an altered metabolic Set Point.

hyperthyroidism often causes loss of weight

It can also cause weight gain as it did in my case, the last thing my GP was expecting was Graves disease.

Snapster
Snapster e2 Member 2119 forum postsSnapster vcard England
29 Aug 2014 - 6:17 PM

Move more, eat less, avoid ready made meals, reduce sugar intake, but do not replace sugar for another so called better type.
Personally I think sugar / sweetners are as bad as each other.

gcarth
gcarth e2 Member 102289 forum postsgcarth vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
29 Aug 2014 - 7:01 PM


Quote: Let's get thyroid out of equation. The only decease that changes sugar (glucose) balance directly is diabetes. But that is different gland. Yes, hyperthyroidism often causes loss of weight as a collateral of hyperactivity. But hypo-activity does not seem to be a direct result of hypothyroidism, rather person's lack of will to deal with lifestyle adjustment. This assumes the condition is known to the person, of course.

As all the "low energy" drinks, etc. - I am always very aware about including in my diet any substances that are not part of natural human food. Cannot be avoided completely, rather need to be consumed in moderation. That's my recipe, bake whatever you like from itWink.

There is a lot of confusion between hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism: Hypothyroidism is caused by having an under-active thyroid while hyperthyroidism is caused by having an over-active thyroid.

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