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keith selmes 11 7.1k 1 United Kingdom
29 Jan 2012 4:42PM
Mine was a Vest Pocket Kodak with one of those tiny mirror finders.

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Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
29 Jan 2012 4:48PM
I delved for a while into medium format twin lens reflexes, I even messed around with home made focusing screens made from perspex that I sand blasted myself Smile
keith selmes 11 7.1k 1 United Kingdom
29 Jan 2012 10:27PM
Several pictures in my pf were taken with a Rollei T, some by moonlight, courtesy of the sportfinder.
In normal use it often is hard to see what you're doing, but on a bright sunny day, that big square screen really lights up.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
6 Feb 2012 7:58PM
I`ve just been caught out.

Thought I had been looking at a Sony Nex with its kit lens, but on a closer look it was the new Tokina 300mm mirror lens mounted on a Pen Smile

I`ve found a better picture here.

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/tokina_300mm_f_6.3_mirror_lens_for_micro_four_thirds/
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
6 Feb 2012 10:47PM
I can understand that mirror lenses pair well with the 'light and compact' philisophy of MFT but from my (limited) experience with mirror lenses I have not been impressed with the image quality. I have found a better image using a shorter focal length 'lens based' lens and cropping. Unless these babies have taken a quantum leap forwards in quality.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
6 Feb 2012 10:53PM
There a bit of an acquired taste Smile

I`ve got an old Tamron, its not out much.
7 Feb 2012 12:36AM

Quote:I've yet to see a picture taken with an M4/3 camera that looks better than what you can get with a regular compact, certainly never seen one that's on a par with a DSLR and quality lens.


Have a look here:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

Compare the cheapest M4/3 with the most expensive one you like, taking the same image for both cameras (eg Still-Life 200) and I think you may be surprised.
User_Removed 10 3.3k 4 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2012 1:26AM
Great tool. Just comparing the Pen (on the left) to the 7D (on the right).


Quote:My Pen E-P2 knocks spots of many DSLRs


Which ones?

07-02-2012-01-24-03.jpg

keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
7 Feb 2012 7:40AM

Quote:Which ones?


Nikon D1 for a start.
Wink
7 Feb 2012 11:07AM

Quote:Great tool. Just comparing the Pen (on the left) to the 7D (on the right).

My Pen E-P2 knocks spots of many DSLRs

Which ones?



For me the surprise was when I compared the CANON 7D to the Olympus XZ-1 (for the same area you show above)

Pound for pound, I'm VERY hard pressed to see what I'm paying all that extra money for.

If you look very close there are small differences in the lighting of these comparison shots so it's not "Laboratory" testing, but a lot better than the old Center-n-Edge shots of the Boat across the River Thames that we had years ago Grin


Considering most people only ever view their images at HDTV resolution and only a few are printed to A3, what are they really wanting all those pixels for ?
Carabosse e2
11 39.7k 269 England
7 Feb 2012 11:40AM
When I was reading vast numbers of reviews, before buying my Olympus E-PL2, it seemed as if the general consensus was the Pen and the Canon 7D produce very similar image quality.

That said, and based on magazine articles I've read, I have a feeling the Sony NEX models probably set the standard in IQ for mirrorless cameras. The 24.3Mp NEX-7 can probably give the Canon 5D Mk II a run for its money up to about ISO 1600, beyond which the full-framer pulls away,
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2012 12:41PM
The NEX do sound good to me but I can't get over the descriptions of how bad the user interfiace is. Sad

I think MFT vs DSLR has started to enter the territory of 'diminishing returns' with not only cost but sheer portability thrown into the mix. A double whammy.

Even for those who are adamanet their APS-C DSLR offers noticable superiority over MFT, I wonder what proportion of their shooting uses this difference to anything like full effect?
Carabosse e2
11 39.7k 269 England
7 Feb 2012 1:17PM

Quote:

Compare the cheapest M4/3 with the most expensive one you like, taking the same image for both cameras (eg Still-Life 200) and I think you may be surprised.



Unfortunately Imaging Resource's Comparometer only shows out-of-camera JPEGs. So you are dependent on the camera's JPEG processing engine. A similar tool for RAW images would be great.


Quote:The NEX do sound good to me but I can't get over the descriptions of how bad the user interfiace is


For what it's worth, below is a comparison of JPEGs of the NEX-7 and the Canon 5D Mk II at ISO 1600.

comparison-nex7-5d2.jpg

User_Removed 10 3.3k 4 United Kingdom
7 Feb 2012 1:45PM
First impressions of this site were good but the tests aren't too consistent, they don't seem to shoot from the same angle / distance for each camera (see grab) Can't find any exif data for the 5D2, wonder what lens and aperture they used? Also if you study the pictures carefully you can see that things have moved about between tests.

07-02-2012-13-39-12.jpg

Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
7 Feb 2012 10:09PM
There`s always one Smile

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