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    ckristoff
    ckristoff  10938 forum posts Wales
    2 Mar 2008 - 10:48 PM

    Friends,

    on page 42 of The Observer, I read an article of Chinese photographer Liu Weiqiang won an award at the 2006 Most Influential News Photos of the Year.

    The image is of an express train crossing over recently completed Qinghai-Tibet rail line. In the image, the train crosses a rail bridge and shows a line of antelopes running underneath the bridge at the same time.

    This image was reproduced by over 200 media outlets.

    The photographer suggested that he waited for two weeks for the image to ' come together '. That was until he realised that why not take 2 seperate images and let Photoshop do the rest!

    The image was apparently used by China to show that the rail line has had little impact on the wildlife of the Tibetan plateau.

    A Chinese zoologist writes in Nature journal, there is no such thing as harmonious coextince between trains and antelopes.


    So friends, I do of course understand that such an image is indeed fraudulent, but does this mean it isn't art? Is it less of a photograph, now we know the truth?

    Only this week, I've read in a writing magazine, of authors who have actually re-written whole novels then pass them off as their own! I'm not saying all of this is right. But surely it is the author or photographer or whoever, to live with the consequences of their actions. Didn't the Rolling Stones rip off Sgt. Pepper?




    Frank.

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    Geoffphoto
    2 Mar 2008 - 10:52 PM


    Quote: Didn't the Rolling Stones rip off Sgt. Pepper?


    No !!

    Slippery_Jim
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:07 PM

    Story and Picture (very small) Here

    Last Modified By Moderator Team at 2 Mar 2008 - 11:13 PM
    Slippery_Jim
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:09 PM

    GRRRR..... what`s up with this stupid post link thing ? Why doesn`t it work ?

    dougv
    dougv Site Moderator 108376 forum postsdougv vcard England3 Constructive Critique Points
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:13 PM


    Quote: GRRRR..... what`s up with this stupid post link thing ? Why doesn`t it work ?

    Because you didn't do it right.

    I fixed it for you.

    Wink

    ckristoff
    ckristoff  10938 forum posts Wales
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:17 PM

    Jim and Dougv,

    thank you for the link!



    Frank.

    IanA
    IanA  103048 forum posts England12 Constructive Critique Points
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:18 PM

    LINK Wink

    Edit: Too late!! Sad

    Last Modified By IanA at 2 Mar 2008 - 11:19 PM
    KevinEllison
    KevinEllison e2 Member 72507 forum postsKevinEllison vcard England
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:39 PM

    Okay..it's art...nice suggestion of trains and wildlife living together..what goes wrong for my tiny grey cell is for it to be used as a 'real' indication in propaganda material...but then when did the Chinese authorities give a s**t about a lot of things...
    Kevin.

    Slippery_Jim
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:41 PM


    Quote: I fixed it for you.

    How ? Tell me, tell me, tell me...

    Last Modified By Moderator Team at 3 Mar 2008 - 12:00 AM
    Slippery_Jim
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:42 PM

    I B******d that ast post up too

    Slippery_Jim
    2 Mar 2008 - 11:42 PM


    Quote: I B******d that ast post up too

    I give up

    dougv
    dougv Site Moderator 108376 forum postsdougv vcard England3 Constructive Critique Points
    3 Mar 2008 - 12:06 AM

    The easiest way do do a link is as follows:

    Decide which word/words you want to be the link.

    So if I type something like this:

    "Here is a line of text and THIS is a link"

    Then click and drag your mouse over the word/words and click on the Insert Link button.

    A dialogue box opens and you type or past in the URL and click on OK.

    You end up with:

    "Here is a line of text and THIS is a link"

    Easy eh?

    Wink

    Sus
    Sus  93183 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
    3 Mar 2008 - 12:13 AM


    Quote: Is it less of a photograph, now we know the truth?

    Yes.

    Its intention - surely? - is to be documentary photography primarily, rather than artistic - and as such does more than fails, it denigrades its whole genre.

    One of the key things is the honesty and intention of the photographer - if they had been honest about the conception of the photograph - it perhaps could have been classified under art.

    KevinEllison
    KevinEllison e2 Member 72507 forum postsKevinEllison vcard England
    3 Mar 2008 - 1:00 AM


    Quote: Its intention - surely? - is to be documentary photography primarily, rather than artistic - and as such does more than fails, it denigrades its whole genre.

    One of the key things is the honesty and intention of the photographer - if they had been honest about the conception of the photograph - it perhaps could have been classified under art

    Like wot I said...

    Slippery_Jim
    3 Mar 2008 - 1:12 AM


    Quote: The easiest way do do a link is as follows:

    Decide which word/words you want to be the link.

    So if I type something like this:

    "Here is a line of text and THIS is a link"

    Then click and drag your mouse over the word/words and click on the Insert Link button.

    A dialogue box opens and you type or past in the URL and click on OK.

    You end up with:

    "Here is a line of text and THIS is a link"

    Easy eh?

    Doh !!

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