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warb  10839 forum posts
7 Sep 2004 - 7:26 PM

another question for the 'help' section :o)

it's happened before and it happened again this afternoon, my comp froze, so i restart and i cant get past the setup screens, asking for system disk etc, when i check in the bios my hard drive isn't there. after hours of hair pulling and fiddling and restarting it has somehow decided to work and come on, but for how long i dont know.

anyone heard of this before? im doing a virus scan right now, is it just that my hard drive is on its way out?

thanks very much for your help.

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warb  10839 forum posts
7 Sep 2004 - 7:48 PM

anyone please? i may not have long :o\

mdpontin  106016 forum posts Scotland
7 Sep 2004 - 7:53 PM

Hi Warb,

Just wondering - it's possible that it could be the backup battery. This is the power source for your system clock and your BIOS settings, etc., while the computer is switched off. If that's dying, possibly because it hasn't been charging properly, then it could produce symptoms like you describe. It should be relatively inexpensive to replace too.

Are you hearing/seeing any unusual disk activity or anything like that? Have you been able to run scandisk or something similar?


(Edit: Sorry, should have addressed you as Dan!)

davidhagen  11168 forum posts
7 Sep 2004 - 7:55 PM

wish i could help ya, maybe you can update your BIOS? good luck warb. get your data backed up asap!
hope it all works out for you. dave

wing  10453 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Sep 2004 - 7:57 PM

I've seen a few hard drives go and they all showed the symptoms you described.

If you don't fancy a full re-install onto a fresh hard drive, you could always get a copy of Drive Copy, Drive Image or Ghost and copy the contents of your hard drive across onto a new hard drive, before it finally gives up.


sophiehw  10382 forum posts
7 Sep 2004 - 8:05 PM

If the disk is on its way out then it seems odd for such a catastrophic failure of the disk to right itself.

I assume the disk hasn't been doing impressions of a vacuum cleaner, like my laptop did just before it died?

Have you checked the cables between the disk and the motherboard are seated firmly?

Whatever the explanation, it's time to make sure the backups of your photos are up to date!

warb  10839 forum posts
7 Sep 2004 - 8:14 PM

thanks all very kind. yup, back ups are under way, check! cables seem fine, check!, yeh everything seems fine doug. next stop, new battery, check, new hard drive...check!

Big Bri
Big Bri  1315588 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Sep 2004 - 8:19 PM

I was having a very similar problem with my kids' PC. 3 times out of 4 it would tell me there was no bootable partition / system drive.
I thought it was the end of the disk, but on closer inspection of my (rather shoddy) handiwork, I discovered that I had installed the CD on a different IDE type than the hard disk. When I saw it, I thought it must be something other than IDE, but the CD did work.
Anyway, I switched the IDE cable so it was connected to the IDE socket on the motherboard next to the one the hard disk was connected to, and not a single problem since.

deviant  103024 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
7 Sep 2004 - 8:31 PM

Danny if you are stuck mail me at home and i'll give you a number to call. I'll happily help you along...

deviant  103024 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
7 Sep 2004 - 8:32 PM

...I'm awfull good at fixing these things.

csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
8 Sep 2004 - 8:19 AM

Hi Danny if you do need to do a ghost, etc to install a new hard-drive take heart. I managed to do this the other day when I finally got feed up of chkdsk starting itself every other time I rebooted. Very annoying and kept finding bits to trash etc. Disk was quite old and I do a lot of work, so I wasn't too disappointed.

Anyway I put in a much larger drive and using Maxtors MaxBlast 3 everything was automated, the partioning and the copying of data. Have to admit it didn't work first time (or even second). I think if you read up the software is a bit hit and miss but it worked eventually. I've trashed the old hard-drive now and put in a secondary drive as well.

What I am trying to say is if I can do it, anyone can.


dwjones  10232 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Sep 2004 - 9:21 AM

When it couldn't find your hard drive did you notice if the time on your computer was wrong also ? If so then it would be your BIOS battery.

If not, check your cables again. Do you have another device on the same IDE cable CD,DVD etc.
Try moving the other device onto the other IDE cable if you have/can.

Hope this helps,


warb  10839 forum posts
8 Sep 2004 - 9:31 AM

thanks cheryl, david.

i think the time was ok, i do also have my cd drive on the same cable so will give that a try.

sabretalon  101918 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Sep 2004 - 10:29 AM

Warb, have you found it freezing in memory hungry programs like photoshop?

trahern  10863 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Sep 2004 - 12:58 PM

I bet it's bloody cold there.

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