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thewilliam
8 Dec 2012 - 6:40 PM

The two Aussie DJs are so devastated that they're getting counselling. What help is the grieving family getting? The bosses at radio station are now worried because some advertisers have withdrawn their business and the broadcasting licence is in question.

Let's not forget that we share a Royal Family with the Aussies so maybe the DJs should be charged with treason!

Last Modified By thewilliam at 8 Dec 2012 - 6:41 PM
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Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314915 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2012 - 7:48 PM


Quote: maybe the DJs should be charged with treason

That`s a bit strong Smile

jondf
jondf  72474 forum posts
8 Dec 2012 - 8:47 PM


Quote: To me, that reads like "it's not our fault, we knew it was a prank and so should everybody else".

Ditto

And another demonstration to me as to the kind of working world these people function in, removed from reality with no means of checking or balancing other than a nod from a lawyer apparently, and no way of reply from those who get victimised.

Tooth
Tooth  95772 forum posts Ireland227 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2012 - 11:55 PM

maybe there should never be any practical jokes any more, as there is always the chance that they might cause the recipient to commit suicide. In fact maybe humour in general should be outlawed? (just in case....)

The consequences were tragic but unpredictable and out of proportion to the likely risk...sad indeed but there you go.......

is there any other news?

jondf
jondf  72474 forum posts
9 Dec 2012 - 10:41 AM


Quote: The consequences were tragic but unpredictable and out of proportion to the likely risk...sad indeed but there you go.......


You seem to be making the assumption that what you say is the truth and that folk should agree with your casual end piece? Well I don't.

It seems a leading Australian psychiatrist has said in reference to the perpetrators that blame is hardly ever useful. That may be so but the problem doesn't rest with individuals. More a sometimes rotten system that routinely crosses the moral line into an immoral conduct zone. I hope Mrs Saldanha's untimely death wasn't in vain and that some good can result. If it makes those in broadcasting think twice about their actions and what they write and transmit (untruths and news manipulation for example), the world will be a better place for it.

mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 7394 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom967 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 11:25 AM

For a while I used to get a lift to work from a colleague who had the car radio tuned to a local station that specialised in hoax calls. I hope I have a sense of humour but I just found them unpleasant and demeaning. The victim was usually a switchboard operator, the bottom rung of the office pecking order, harassed and underpaid, who tried to handle some bizarre or idiotic enquiry politely and patiently, and was treated as a figure of fun for his, or more usually her, efforts. Not funny, not entertaining. My heart goes out to the family of a good woman doing her job who fell victim to what the world currently views as entertainment.

Last Modified By mrswoolybill at 9 Dec 2012 - 11:26 AM
strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 12:50 PM

I feel a great deal of sadness for the family who are left with the pieces of this mess. It is impossible to decide what went on from the outside but even if it is the last straw type thing, it still is the push that drove a person to a desperate act. As for the radio station, they sanctioned the broadcast of the prank so in my eyes it is more than the DJ's that need to think on their actions, the station management are just as guilty.

Last Modified By strawman at 9 Dec 2012 - 12:55 PM
discreetphoton
discreetphoton Site Moderator 93443 forum postsdiscreetphoton vcard United Kingdom20 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 1:20 PM

To be honest, I'm of the opinion that those charged with preserving the security of Kate and William have some questions to answer. I refuse to believe that there are no protocols in place which cover emergency hospital admissions and communication with the outside world. I'd have liked to think that our Royal Family have a little more protection than was offered here, and I'm surprised that there doesn't appear to be a screening process for calls in circumstances such as these.

Tooth
Tooth  95772 forum posts Ireland227 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 1:25 PM


Quote: You seem to be making the assumption that what you say is the truth and that folk should agree with your casual end piece? Well I don't

with respect you couldn't be more wrong. I never make the assumption that what I say is the truth unless I know it to be factually so. I was expressing an opinion. I also never assume that folk should agree with me - I express my opinion and it's up to them to agree or disagree.

Wouldn't it be boring if we all agreed?

gcarth
gcarth e2 Member 102255 forum postsgcarth vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 2:11 PM


Quote: Wouldn't it be boring if we all agreed?

It certainly would - but I always agree with you 'Tooth' - well nearly always! Wink I think there were probably other factors that contributed to pushing the poor nurse 'over the edge', though I'm only guessing.
Nevertheless I share the disgust with those who condemn those radio stations that put out this puerile rubbish that promotes the humiliation of people - people who don't deserve it.
There seems to be an increasing degree of cynicism and general nastiness in the media and on the internet, on Twitter etc. Sad

jondf
jondf  72474 forum posts
9 Dec 2012 - 7:21 PM


Quote: I never make the assumption that what I say is the truth

In that case I apologise but when someone states that 'the consequences were' rather than 'I think they were' and goes on to say 'sad indeed but there you go' as if it one should move on and not dwell on it then I'm immediately placed in a position of disagreement.....so there you go.

Tooth
Tooth  95772 forum posts Ireland227 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 8:30 PM

No need for the apology, but it's accepted in the spirit..

just to clarify a bit more, I really have no time either for the "puerile rubbish that promotes the humiliation of people". My gripe is really that the consequences were so unpredictable and disproportionate to the risk (IMHO Wink ) that it doesn't serve to gain much by hounding the perpetrators as killers rather than just puerile idiots. Their types of actions often cause offence and humiliation, and I agree they should be condemned for that.

My final comments? - well, it's hard not to get frustrated by the news when anything but anything to do with the royals is "made sticky" and kept at the top of the news for days and weeks to the exclusion of nearly anything else of import going on in the world...and I suppose when a real human story comes out of it there's a feeling that it'll definitely not go away now...

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314915 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2012 - 9:39 PM


Quote: To be honest, I'm of the opinion that those charged with preserving the security of Kate and William have some questions to answer. I refuse to believe that there are no protocols in place which cover emergency hospital admissions and communication with the outside world

I`m sure there are, but its not as if the caller was asking for personal medical records.

Two weeks ago I found myself in desperate need of information on my son, a life and death situation.

I would have been well pissed off if the hospital refused to give me information over the phone.

mikehit
mikehit  46163 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
10 Dec 2012 - 8:55 AM


Quote:

It seems a leading Australian psychiatrist has said in reference to the perpetrators that blame is hardly ever useful. That may be so but the problem doesn't rest with individuals. More a sometimes rotten system that routinely crosses the moral line into an immoral conduct zone. I hope Mrs Saldanha's untimely death wasn't in vain and that some good can result. If it makes those in broadcasting think twice about their actions and what they write and transmit (untruths and news manipulation for example), the world will be a better place for it.

That's about the best comment I have read on this sad event.
The station apparently has the biggest audience in the Sydney area and part of the station's appeal is that it pushes all sorts of limits - in a way it is a shame that the horror and repercussions have come from what was a silly prank rather than anything that was intended to humiliate someone (such as the type of calls mrswoollybill describes).

collywobles
10 Dec 2012 - 5:48 PM


Quote: The two Aussie DJs are so devastated that they're getting counselling

Well Booohooooo bloody Booohooooo. Counselling, .............. they need firing and sueing for the loss of a mother and partner. Practical jokes do sometimes go wrong and when they do those involved in them should realise they sometimes have consequences and when they do you have to stand up and take the medicine, not Booohooo on TV for sympathy. They certainly did not intend the consequences but it happened.

Reminds me of some of the stuff that pratt Noel Edmunds used to do until one guy got killed in some race track prank.

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