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Wyshwood
Wyshwood  2 United Kingdom
2 Jan 2012 - 11:17 AM

Is there a way to separate the noobs from the pros?
I feel the competition element of getting an award is so much harder with professional pics compared to am snaps.
For example, my Pan FZ38 can hardly compete with an Canon EOS 5DII can it?

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KevSB
KevSB  101407 forum posts United Kingdom5 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 11:26 AM

Cameras dont win comps, quite often the winner of a comp is from a compact but was at the right place. I remeber last year a pair of jeans winning the landscape competition, Camera had nothing to do with it, it was the concept that won

Eastlands
Eastlands e2 Member 3649 forum postsEastlands vcard Northern Ireland3 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 11:29 AM

Awards should be for photos not equipment, a maxim I hope to stick to this week as I begin my stint as Guest Editor, John.

Wyshwood
Wyshwood  2 United Kingdom
2 Jan 2012 - 11:29 AM

Reasonable comment, although I'm sure I could improve my bird shots with a bigger lens ;0)

SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64345 forum postsSlowSong vcard England28 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 11:30 AM

Some of my best images were snapped on the hoof without any planning or thought behind them, often using a very basic camera.
Some images, say landscapes or portraits, can be more obviously taken by pros as they take more planning and/or lighting, but excellent street or candid images could be taken by anyone.

Last Modified By SlowSong at 2 Jan 2012 - 11:30 AM
SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64345 forum postsSlowSong vcard England28 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 11:32 AM


Quote: Reasonable comment, although I'm sure I could improve my bird shots with a bigger lens ;0)

It does help to have the right tools for the job but you can still get rubbish pics even with the best gear.

adrian_w
adrian_w e2 Member 73293 forum postsadrian_w vcard Scotland4 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 11:53 AM


Quote: Reasonable comment, although I'm sure I could improve my bird shots with a bigger lens ;0)

Almost certainly, but if you don't have the big lens then you're better off trying a different genre.

Put it another way, you're never going to win an F1 race in a Dakar Rally buggy, but if you're good enough you could win in S America.

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014778 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 11:58 AM

most of the awards on here are given to amateurs.... pros are usually too busy photographing trainers or babies Wink

gpwalton
gpwalton  1390 forum posts
2 Jan 2012 - 11:59 AM

What is your definition of a Pro?

What is your defintion of an Amateur?

Many unpaid photographers have expensive kit and all the time in the world for taking photos and post processing.

tezquirk
tezquirk  227 forum posts United Kingdom
2 Jan 2012 - 12:04 PM

It does seem difficult to get an Award for any photo on EPZ , But like some of the previous comments say its not the equipment that picks the shot .. Smile But I have noticed the voting system seems to be in favour of friends and not the photo's ..

Wyshwood
Wyshwood  2 United Kingdom
2 Jan 2012 - 12:08 PM

So it may be more about social skills that might tip the balance for me Tongue I'd better spread some love quick and crack some more votes.

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014778 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 12:22 PM

awards are mainly down to the use of textures and clever processing with software Wink

whipspeed
whipspeed e2 Member 104040 forum postswhipspeed vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 1:06 PM


Quote: It does seem difficult to get an Award for any photo on EPZ

That can be a good thing, if something is difficult to get, it makes it more worthwhile when you do.


Quote: But I have noticed the voting system seems to be in favour of friends and not the photo's ..

But not necessarily a way to improve your shots Wink

tezquirk
tezquirk  227 forum posts United Kingdom
2 Jan 2012 - 1:24 PM

I agree with what your saying Whipspeed .. But it still doesn't justify friends voting for friends photo's , The point of voting system Is to vote for what you think is a good photo...

adrian_w
adrian_w e2 Member 73293 forum postsadrian_w vcard Scotland4 Constructive Critique Points
2 Jan 2012 - 1:26 PM


Quote: But I have noticed the voting system seems to be in favour of friends and not the photo's ..


Depends on what "voting system" you mean. If you you refer to click votes on the images then you are right. If you mean awards such as Editors Award or Guest Editors Award then that isn't the case, ( despite what one or two disgruntled people occasionally think).

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