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    stebec
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    8 Nov 2008 - 7:49 PM
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    Hi all
    I'm taking photo's at a wedding in a couple of weeks, I dont really want to use flash, is there any way around this.
    My camera is canon D400, I have a speedlight EX580 II but like I said I hoping not to use this.
    The wedding is taking place at 1700hr's so i will have problems with light.
    Looking forward to any advice.

    Steve

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    Use the flash !
    at 5 oclock in December, the 21st is the darkest day, it will be dark !
    read up on soft lighting techniques using diffusers and bounce

    spaceman
    8 Nov 2008 - 7:54 PM
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    You can sometimes use slow shutter speeds instead of flash in poor lighting but that requires a tripod. It'll be dark by 5.00pm though so I think you'll have to use flash

    cameracat
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    8 Nov 2008 - 8:08 PM
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    Theres nothing wrong with flash, When it's used correctly, If it's going to be dark, Your going to need some light or risk blurry pics, Or hope everyone keeps still for slow shutter speeds Or risk very high ISO settings & the potential for image noise......!

    The choice is yours of course.......Wink

    EDIT; Consider a diffuser/reflector, Stoffen can help, Or a straight white card, Have an assistant on hand with a hand held reflector, If possible use your 580 mounted a tad higher than on top of the camera......These might help!

    Last Modified By cameracat at 8 Nov 2008 - 8:11 PM
    Graywolf
    8 Nov 2008 - 8:56 PM
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    I did my first wedding recently.

    Two useful things I learned.

    1 Use the flash
    2 Don't be frightened to up the ISO. In December I would start at ISO 400 and only come down if you can get away with it.

    Mr Burns around? I ain't got the guts.

    Ok, thought perhaps I should write something helpful.

    Use your flash - there's just no two ways about it. If you use a slow shutter speed and tripod, you'll get loads of blurry pics unless you use ISO 3200000000, in which case your pics will be so noisy no-one will be able to get close enough to see them (without suffering permanent hearing loss Smile )

    If you haven't already got one, go out and buy a Stofen diffuser - it's the easiest and cheapest solution in the short term.

    And yes, bump your ISO up as far as you can get away with - not familiar with the D400 but the higher your ISO, the more ambient light you'll let into your camera. Best of British.

    Jamie.

    croberts
    8 Nov 2008 - 11:45 PM
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    lol!

    use your F'ing flash!

    hoping you have some fast lenses, and not f5.6 slow zooms....

    just bounce the flash off something. preferably a wall they're looking towards, or a wall behind you or the ceiling or whatever. shoot away at iso800 +. The flash will pump enough fill light in, and it will really help with the noise.

    if the noise is bad, do loads of Black and whites.... Smile

    worry more about the content of your pictures, than the technical perfection. Clients mostly see content before anything else.

    Laurel_Steinbeck
    Laurel_Steinbeck (e2 Member)
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    8 Nov 2008 - 11:56 PM
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    Use the flash correctly.
    That's what it's for?


    Gerry.

    cameracat
    cameracat (e2 Member)
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    9 Nov 2008 - 12:56 PM
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    Just to add to some technical on the ISO, I checked with my other half who uses Canon 20D & 40D cameras, You should be able to get away with ISO 640 or thereabouts, Without to much fear of noise, Maybe even ISO 800 providing there is enough light or the shadowy areas may become noisy......!

    If you stick at around ISO 640 and use the flash for fill, You should be ok.....But still use the flash in bounce position with some sort of diffuser....Or reflector....Be that on the flash or using whats available in the way of walls & ceilings.......!

    Be mindfull of walls that are not white, Or they may add a cast to the image.......

    richard00
    9 Nov 2008 - 1:33 PM
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    Quote: Just to add to some technical on the ISO, I checked with my other half who uses Canon 20D & 40D cameras, You should be able to get away with ISO 640 or thereabouts, Without to much fear of noise, Maybe even ISO 800 providing there is enough light or the shadowy areas may become noisy......!

    If you stick at around ISO 640 and use the flash for fill, You should be ok.....But still use the flash in bounce position with some sort of diffuser....Or reflector....Be that on the flash or using whats available in the way of walls & ceilings.......!

    Be mindfull of walls that are not white, Or they may add a cast to the image.......

    400D does ISO 400 then 800 and its not too hot at 800. Have you got a fast lens - if not get the 50mm F1.8 - might well save the day


    Quote: Mr Burns around? I ain't got the guts.

    Not touching this with a big stick... I'm trying to avoid another ban...

    Just Jas
    9 Nov 2008 - 2:33 PM
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    Quote: Mr Burns around? I ain't got the guts.

    Thought he was talking about Homer! Smile

    Jat_Riski
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    9 Nov 2008 - 3:45 PM
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    iso 400,RAW,50mm f1.8,white thin hanky (single layer)on flash head, use rubberband should do job nicley.Take few test shot, increase or decrease flash out put if test shot dark or too bright.


    Quote: I dont really want to use flash, is there any way around this.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH !...

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