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Yesterday while nipping to ASDA there were three 'youths' kicking their football as hard as they could against a side wall of the supermarket, in the time that I first heard the commotion and then reaching where they were they'd hit 2 cars so hard with this ball that I'd be surprised if they weren't damaged, but they carried on despite several people standing around and tutting, they didnt care what they were doing. Then they narrowly missed an old lady's head, they laughed!! The supermarket manager then appeared but seemed powerless to stop them.
With cuts in police force bugdets rumoured to be around 25% are we now going to have to 'police' some things ourselves?
Well I assume the manager was able to call the Tesco security people so not really powerless? We have the same sort of problem here at college and all the managers have had training on restraining people, we run a duty manager system and if staff have a problem they call the duty manager who deals with the situation. We have no security staff at all but we do have PCSOs wandering in and out during the day.
Phone the Police and report it. Yes there may be cuts in service on the horizon but calls, even those not attended too, will have been logged and statistics generated to show the need for an adequate police presence. There are no doubt quite a few areas of public spending that will not return when the cuts really bite but by highlighting those which affect people most when funding restraints start to ease spending can first be used to address the most pressing topics.
Does anyone else feel a deep loathing for banks and bankers who seem to have suffered the least in all this financial meltdown.
Andy80F
Quote: Well I assume the manager was able to call the Tesco security people so not really powerless?
Not really, Tescos is the other side of town. 
Besides I said 'seemed' not 'was', because he could do nothing himself and they carried on regardless.
As I understand it anyone in a uniform (police, security or even employee uniform such as Greggs) can legally carry out a stop & search under section 44 to determine if these 'footballers' are in fact one or more individuals gathering data which could potentially be useful in acts of terrorism!
Society as a whole needs to take responsability for the teaching of manners and good behaviour .... and not just our own children.
It is the fact that people feel they can not say 'NO' to children or give them any sort of disipline (right from birth it seems) that has brought us to the point where the 'youth' rule rather than the adults.
The first response these days is 'call the police' - 'it is not my responsability/job'.
One of the reasons the police are stretched so thin on the ground is because they recieve so many calls about relatively minor things.
It is a vicious circle and one that can ony be broken by us ..... society ..... by speaking up teaching our children disipline and good morals.
I am not saying that you should have waded in (it sounds like this lot were not for taking a telling) - just making an observation
Roy
Quote: One of the reasons the police are stretched so thin on the ground is because they recieve so many calls about relatively minor things
apparently only 1 in 10 PCs are on the ground at any one time......lack of presence is more likely to be that we are asking them to do too many `non-PC' jobs.
perhaps the Manager could ask them to round up some trolleys! for a small reward at the end..better that they are occupied with something worthwhile before they end up on community service 
I believe it starts with the parents. How can you expect the child to behave when 'some' parents behave just as bad if not and sometimes worse. I personally do not believe anything can ( or will) be done to resolve this problem so we just have to get used to it and isolate ourselves from that kind of behavior which will slowly get worse. For that I mean, dont go to area's and places where these kind of ferals and their parents live, make sure your homes and property are secure and get on with your life.
There is an underclass in our society that is almost beyond any help - they neither help themselves or help others - and thats how it is.
Quote: Society as a whole needs to take responsability for the teaching of manners and good behaviour .... and not just our own children
True Roy, but the internet has become such a breeding ground for hate and nastyness - just look at some of the comments on You Tube, Facebook - even News sites!
It is time for the do good brigade to climb back under their bush, & for the responsible members of society to bring back corporal punishment, including, birch flogging. We have been to soft for to long. I live in the area, that has been on the national news, regarding under age drinking, in some instancse, sponsored by their parents. All hope will gone, if action is not taken soon.
But I fear that we have passed that point.
Quote: Not really, Tescos is the other side of town.
Sorry about that, the power of advertising I saw ASDA and read Tesco!
Quote: Besides I said 'seemed' not 'was', because he could do nothing himself and they carried on regardless.
What did he do?
Quote: True Roy, but the internet has become such a breeding ground for hate and nastyness - just look at some of the comments on You Tube, Facebook - even News sites!
Couldn't agree more. Seems to be the thing to pull people mercilessly to pieces just for 'fun' - particularly on some so called TV 'humour' panel shows.
There are no heroes now - only anti-heroes it seems.
So, Collywobbles ............ are you saying that we as a scoiety should just give in and allow violence and bad behaviour to take over? - leave it all to somebody else?
That attitude scares me
It scares me more than telling a school kid to pick up the sweet wrapper they have just thrown down. Or asking older youths to refain from swearing in front of youngsters.
More even than going to the aid of somebody being attacked.
If "WE" do nothing then things can only get worse.
Quote: Does anyone else feel a deep loathing for banks and bankers who seem to have suffered the least in all this financial meltdown.
Oh Yes! (though I shouldn't because its bad to hate) I have no respect for the politicians who allowed it to happen either. 
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