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ketch
ketch e2 Member 6770 forum postsketch vcard Turks and Caicos Islands50 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:31 PM

Someone once told me that true art must contain at least the germ of 'social comment' - I think in general this holds up fairly well in the absence of a better litmus.

Of course it depends on the definition of social comment I guess but I wonder how many shots on ePz qualify on this basis?

What is art? What is photography?

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elowes
elowes  102832 forum posts United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 - 4:35 PM

Not again!!!!!

Photography is, to the vast majority of photographers the medium by which a moment in time is captured. It may be considered as art or as social commentary or any other thing you like but essentially its main use is that of recording that moment.

Art is a pile of arranged elephant poo.

strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:39 PM

When I stamp my feet and say it is OK. Wink

In fact this post is art as it contains a social comment

In fact I have printed off a few views of my portfolio and stuck them on the wall, squintly with blue tack.

In this way I have created an instalation.

and the spelling mistakes are a coment on my social status and education background.

Last Modified By strawman at 22 Apr 2008 - 4:42 PM
witheye
witheye  8190 forum posts
22 Apr 2008 - 4:44 PM

photography is capturing beauty
in moments in time
art is creating beauty

strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:47 PM

Art is a mobile phone placed near a glacier in Iceland that you can phone up and listen to the glacier melt.

SteveCharles
22 Apr 2008 - 4:49 PM

What's a photo of it?

strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:50 PM


Quote: What's a photo of it?

A copyright infringement

Search for Katie Paterson Vatanajokull
The web site Now the pictures look good to me, (at least the 1st one) but the Oxford gallery of modern art do not have the pictures but do have the telephone number.

Still the Adams exhibition is good, its just the art bit fools me Wink

Last Modified By strawman at 22 Apr 2008 - 4:54 PM
Krakman
Krakman  73615 forum posts Scotland
22 Apr 2008 - 4:52 PM

When is photography art? When it's really good. And the idea behind it is original. And it does have some kind of idea behind it.

Last Modified By Krakman at 22 Apr 2008 - 4:53 PM
ketch
ketch e2 Member 6770 forum postsketch vcard Turks and Caicos Islands50 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:55 PM

[
Quote: quote]Not again!!!!!

Sorry I should have realised this had been done before.

Quote: essentially its main use is that of recording that moment.

Doesn't a tape recorder do this, brass rubbing, piece of plasticene, human eye/skin/brain - they can all record the moment perhaps some less well than others - so no distinction between photography and the impression left on your hand after gripping something?


Quote: Art is a pile of arranged elephant poo.

[/quote]

Yep you have to be right as long as you know it is elephant poo.

Last Modified By ketch at 22 Apr 2008 - 4:56 PM
strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:56 PM

But is that moment in itself art.

ketch
ketch e2 Member 6770 forum postsketch vcard Turks and Caicos Islands50 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:58 PM


Quote: But is that moment in itself art.

Or is in fact the art the moment...

strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 4:59 PM

I crap so I am an artist Smile

If you can quantitfy and measure it, it ceases to be art. If you can discuss it, argue, and draw different views it art Smile

today I became a philosopher, tomorrow I will earn to spell it

Last Modified By strawman at 22 Apr 2008 - 5:00 PM
ketch
ketch e2 Member 6770 forum postsketch vcard Turks and Caicos Islands50 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 5:01 PM

Does that mean if it's not crap it's not art?

Krakman
Krakman  73615 forum posts Scotland
22 Apr 2008 - 5:02 PM


Quote: the impression left on your hand after gripping something


Quote: I crap


Quote: the spelling mistakes are a coment on my social status and education background


Quote: pile of arranged elephant poo

I think we have the makings of quite a good exhibition here. Can I be your agent?

strawman
strawman  1022002 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 5:02 PM

No its just not modern art Smile

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