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When is photography art?


ketch e2
7 770 50 Turks And Caicos Islands
22 Apr 2008 4:31PM
Someone once told me that true art must contain at least the germ of 'social comment' - I think in general this holds up fairly well in the absence of a better litmus.

Of course it depends on the definition of social comment I guess but I wonder how many shots on ePz qualify on this basis?

What is art? What is photography?

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elowes 10 2.8k United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 4:35PM
Not again!!!!!

Photography is, to the vast majority of photographers the medium by which a moment in time is captured. It may be considered as art or as social commentary or any other thing you like but essentially its main use is that of recording that moment.

Art is a pile of arranged elephant poo.
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 4:39PM
When I stamp my feet and say it is OK. Wink

In fact this post is art as it contains a social comment

In fact I have printed off a few views of my portfolio and stuck them on the wall, squintly with blue tack.

In this way I have created an instalation.

and the spelling mistakes are a coment on my social status and education background.
witheye 8 190
22 Apr 2008 4:44PM
photography is capturing beauty
in moments in time
art is creating beauty
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 4:47PM
Art is a mobile phone placed near a glacier in Iceland that you can phone up and listen to the glacier melt.
SteveCharles 12 2.3k 18 England
22 Apr 2008 4:49PM
What's a photo of it?
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 4:50PM

Quote:What's a photo of it?
A copyright infringement

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The web site Now the pictures look good to me, (at least the 1st one) but the Oxford gallery of modern art do not have the pictures but do have the telephone number.

Still the Adams exhibition is good, its just the art bit fools me Wink
Krakman 8 3.6k Scotland
22 Apr 2008 4:52PM
When is photography art? When it's really good. And the idea behind it is original. And it does have some kind of idea behind it.
ketch e2
7 770 50 Turks And Caicos Islands
22 Apr 2008 4:55PM
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Quote:quote]Not again!!!!!


Sorry I should have realised this had been done before.

Quote:essentially its main use is that of recording that moment.


Doesn't a tape recorder do this, brass rubbing, piece of plasticene, human eye/skin/brain - they can all record the moment perhaps some less well than others - so no distinction between photography and the impression left on your hand after gripping something?


Quote:Art is a pile of arranged elephant poo.



Yep you have to be right as long as you know it is elephant poo.
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 4:56PM
But is that moment in itself art.
ketch e2
7 770 50 Turks And Caicos Islands
22 Apr 2008 4:58PM

Quote:But is that moment in itself art.


Or is in fact the art the moment...
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 4:59PM
I crap so I am an artist Smile

If you can quantitfy and measure it, it ceases to be art. If you can discuss it, argue, and draw different views it art Smile

today I became a philosopher, tomorrow I will earn to spell it
ketch e2
7 770 50 Turks And Caicos Islands
22 Apr 2008 5:01PM
Does that mean if it's not crap it's not art?
Krakman 8 3.6k Scotland
22 Apr 2008 5:02PM

Quote:the impression left on your hand after gripping something



Quote:I crap



Quote:the spelling mistakes are a coment on my social status and education background



Quote:pile of arranged elephant poo


I think we have the makings of quite a good exhibition here. Can I be your agent?
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2008 5:02PM
No its just not modern art Smile

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