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    1 Dec 2008 - 6:30 PM

    I've just done my first swimming gala over 2 weekends and a presentation evening.
    Over 2K images, a team photo of 73 swimmers and individual studio portraits to go in a double mount with team photo.

    All in all, this has been (financially) a waste of time. Sold around 200 in team photos alone and not much else.

    My skills are upto the job and all images posted were high quality. I was selling 9x6 with strut mount for 6.00!!

    I've made twice this on a small end-of-season hunter trial events with 12 riders!

    Does anyone else have experience of swimming galas they can share?

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    ZenTog  127875 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
    1 Dec 2008 - 6:42 PM

    9x6s at 6 pounds in a mount is too cheap, 8-10 pounds up to 12 pounds is the average
    you probally found every time you posed team photos the mums and dads snapped away with thier point and shoots, hence low takings, the ones that did buy one, and get is scanned and printed, sign of the times.

    the very best earners is school proms , heard of 1700+ takings one nighter for a small school

    the equine market is on a down turn due to over satuation by too many togs , in too small market, again sign of the times, a lot of pro photography firms are off loading such work .

    Last Modified By ZenTog at 1 Dec 2008 - 6:43 PM
    Graysta  91135 forum posts England
    1 Dec 2008 - 8:50 PM

    While most of us try to produce a quality product to sell, and scrutinize our own work till almost perfect,most people as Paul says are more than happy with a point & squirt Jpeg 6x4 or do a scan of a group of about 16 by only buying 1 image from the tog.


    ZenTog  127875 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
    1 Dec 2008 - 8:54 PM

    i always use jpeg at events, as speed is the essence, raws too big and too slow.
    I shoot both for important things like weddings then use the raw if the exposure / white balance is out on the jpeg

    conversely if the pictures of girls are too sharp it shows all the imperfections , so slightly softer is often better

    Last Modified By ZenTog at 1 Dec 2008 - 8:54 PM
    1 Dec 2008 - 9:37 PM

    The 6 price tag was for the pool shots. Still too cheap i Know but i got the job from someone who attended a fund raising event i did where i charged 6 a print.
    The group photo and double mount went for 10 but i think 12 would be my norm for this and 16 for 12x8.
    Only 12 kids chose to have a portrait done but everyone of those sold in a double mount with the team photo.

    I shot it all on Jpeg's except the team photo which i shot raw.

    I've got my first school shoot on Thursday this week. 120 children plus class shots.
    I'm hauling a 10ftx21ft vinyl backdrop with me trying some High key school shots instead of the normal stuff at the request of the head.

    Any pitfalls I should worry about?

    Last Modified By Bucephalas69 at 1 Dec 2008 - 9:37 PM
    1 Dec 2008 - 9:51 PM

    Quote: I'm hauling a 10ftx21ft vinyl backdrop with me....Any pitfalls I should worry about?

    A slipped disc...


    3 Dec 2008 - 10:19 AM

    taking too long - schools are adamant that it should not disrupt the day.
    The good news is that the teachers are past masters at getting the groups sorted for the class shots.
    I've only ever done this once -final year group - 6 classes of 30 then a full year shot - all done in a 30 minute window.

    PS - it was an all girl secondary school and the din they made was phenomenal

    PPS - The really good news was that I was being paid by the school to take the shots, and picked up additional sales of the images, but sales were v low

    Last Modified By snapperpaul at 3 Dec 2008 - 10:21 AM
    9 Dec 2008 - 12:54 PM

    Well job was done. Luckily i also took a Lastolite Hilite 7x6 backdrop which was invalueable as they didn't have as much room available as they had said.
    As for sales......... the only shots they wanted was the snaps with Santa!

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