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Look them up on bhphoto,com Terry, and check the specs, that's what I do. I wouldn't pay for the anti-shake system on the Sigma 150, it doubles the price of the lens. I bought a new 150 on ebay last year for $450.00; it comes with a tripod collar and hood, and it's a great lens. I think the min focus is 11 inches; it's also a good general purpose f2.8 lens. A bit heavy on a Canon 40D for me, I spent 3.5 hours in a park with it one day, walking, and it was uncomfortable. I'd certainly buy it again if I was serious about macro, it's built like a tank, as they say.
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