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I went to a do the other night promoting a mobile phone, featuring David Bailey see here link
The young have never heard of David bailey so I wondered who would a young person who is a non photographer have heard of? David Bailey was a household name, why was that? why as far as I can tell is there not a household name photographer now? Do photographers not capture the imagination any more? Any ideas?
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I know one of the reasons David Bailey made it was that he appeared in TV ads in the early 80s, advertising the Olympus Trip. In retail I met many customers who would say they were looking to buy a camera. I'd ask "what sort of photography do you want to do"...their response was...oh I'm no David Bailey. No one has, and I don't believe ever will have, that affect again.
A case of when everyone's a photographer (even if only with a camera phone), then nobody's a photographer?
David Bailey was all about encapsulating the swinging sixties - "David Bailey, makes love daily" and all that. That's why he was a household name at the time. There's no particular reason why youngsters nowadays should have heard of him.
He was a good photographer, but there are and always have been a lot of good, even brilliant, photographers around, at the same time as, before and after Bailey. There are some people who are not that far from being household names, like Martin Parr today or Cartier Bresson, Robert Capa etc. in the past. Bailey was famous for a while, but rather dropped into the shade as the 60's faded. I suspect that people like Capa are if anything probably better known nowadays, except perhaps among the older generations.
yes Rankin comes to my mind, but then I'm a photographer, ask your freinds you Rankin is? blank faces.
Thing is Pete wasnt he famous any way, other wise he wouldnt have got the olympus gig in the first place.
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I think getting into bed with a phone company reaches out to the kids a masterstroke and the new David Bailey will be David Bailey.
When you say who will be the next anyone its never going to happen the next George Best the next Alfred Hitchcock (amongst others) unatainable pioneers and masters of their art.
I agree that Rankin is our modern Bailey, but I don't think he's quite a household name. Could it also be said that Rankin has also had his heyday, during the 90's 'Cool Britannia' era?
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Yes just like Duffy or Snowdon or Litchfield, but the TV advertising brought him to mass recognition in a way that no other photographer had. Bob Carlos Clarke was arguably the man of the 90s. Maybe today it's Annie Leibovitz or Anne Geddes.
I have a feeling CB might be on to something, we are all so media savvy, the young are the utube generation, they are much harder to impress than in the 60's. Every one with a phone is a photographer.
I rather like Howard Schatz at the moment.
Just asked my kids, my 13 year old daughters response was I know about the dude who did the 911 images, and Normandy ( I think she means Cappa) - I think I need to do a bit of educating
Bailey was probably the beginning of society's obsession with celebrity. He became famous by taking some nice pics of celebrities of the day, and became a celebrity himself in the process, with the help of the power of advertising.
Today he would probably become a famous photographer by being on I'm a Celebrity Get me out of Here.
I think that the film Blowup might have influenced peoples perception of David Bailey as the main character in the film was said to have been based on him by the director.
Bailey was well known in the 1960's for his fashion work in magazines like Vogue, and he also worked with a lot of up and coming celebrities and other well known individuals, e.g. the Kray Twins.
These days the Paperatzi seem to have tarnished the image of photographers, and the days of the celebrity photographer are a thing of the past.
Talking of Rankin, I went to his retrospective exhibtion, Its massive.
It takes a good 3 hours to view them all, Really enjoyed it though.
Came out wanting to take some pictures!
Re David bailley, I think there are lots of iconic images, that many people would recoginise, 'household' images for want of a better expression, but most people don't know who took them. Like the girl scratching her bum.
( that's not a good example, No one knows that photograher)
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