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    roxpix
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    22 Mar 2010 - 11:32 AM
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    Morning

    I'm the numpty and I need help

    This image is in my pf and every time I look at it I can see a huge flaw with the 'horns growing out of the head'

    I have spent stupid hours trying to remove them 'seamlesly' in PS7 but do not posess the knowledge of which process will work & what steps are within that process

    I suspect it may be layers (of which I have no experience) along with a.n. other function & this is what stumps me. I have tried reading up through various online tutorials and Adobe help screens but I just cannot grasp how to 'layer' something like this image to enable me to work on just the area I want

    I have tried cloning snow around the ears after magnetic lasso etc but due to the close match on colour range I cannot get a satisfactory 'join' between the two areas

    I'm not an e2 member so cant use the mods feature

    Help please!

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    tommythecat
    22 Mar 2010 - 11:45 AM
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    I do almost all my 'edge work' with a paintbrush and/or clone brush - quite labour-intensive but usually better results than relying on lasso etc I find.

    If it were a detailed background you'd probably have to spend a lot of time using the clone tool to reconstruct the background in place of the branches. As it's very plain, however, I'd just select the snow colour for your brush (select brush tool and alt-click on a snow area), then just paint on a new empty layer above the original photo, using a slightly soft-edged brush to maintain the soft look of the fur. In the example below I've gone back over with vertical strokes from a small brush head to create the serrated look of the fur - getting this looking ok on the full-size image will take a bit longer!

    There are photoshop plugins for masking out backgrounds around fur etc, but to be honest i don't know how well they'd cope with the similar colours of the head/branches anyway.

    Hope that helps

    Tommy

    tig.jpg

    PS nice picture too!

    Last Modified By tommythecat at 22 Mar 2010 - 11:46 AM
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    Pete
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    22 Mar 2010 - 11:48 AM
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    Make a selection around the top of the head just above the head using the polygonal lasso and draw it round the trees. Clone into the selection from nearby snow. Sample from the snow area. Then use the smudge tool to make the edge of the fur look spiky. Brush from the snow inwards in short sharp bursts. using the brush at 1 to 3 pixels.
    This was a quick version
    13677-1267985619.jpg

    Last Modified By Pete at 22 Mar 2010 - 11:49 AM
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    roxpix
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    22 Mar 2010 - 12:01 PM
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    Thanks guys, can't beleive how quickly you have both achieved it after my lame attempts that have taken me ages

    I now need to attempt this for myself to see if I can get this process nailed down
    P.s. I know the areas left and right of the ears needs done too but I figured if I can get it for the 'horns' I could apply same logic/process to the side of the ears, yes?

    Pete
    Pete (ePHOTOzine Staff)
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    22 Mar 2010 - 12:14 PM
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    Yes same process...also for the right side

    sidaorb
    22 Mar 2010 - 12:40 PM
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    Confession time..................I am totally useless at PS in any form beyond crop & sharpen, all of this tool / clone / etc stuff terrifies the life out of me. I would love to learn but I need to be starting at the basics and still can't find something to help this complete numpty Sad

    Chris_L
    22 Mar 2010 - 12:46 PM
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    I'd crop it at the top of the ears, seriously. Lose the top of the head and I think the face looks better.

    Last Modified By Chris_L at 22 Mar 2010 - 12:47 PM
    John_Frid
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    22 Mar 2010 - 12:48 PM
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    I too struggled with PS until I discovered the books of Scott Kelby. He manages to explain things in a straightforward step by step way , and before long I was much more confident and trying all sorts of things I'd avoided previously.

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    digiphoto
    23 Mar 2010 - 1:08 AM
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    I agree with John Frid the Kelby books are a great help but if you would rather be shown Barry Beckham of Beckham Digital has several tutorial DVD's on all aspects of Photoshop at a reasonable price. Tony.

    StrayCat
    23 Mar 2010 - 3:15 AM
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    For the most complete, and easiest PS resource, visit 123di.com. I have had this about 6 years, and it doesn't get any easier, IMO. As our favourite reviewer would say; "Buy it! I did. You need this, it will help you be like me."Tongue

    peterjones
    23 Mar 2010 - 8:19 AM
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    I prefer your tiger minus the growths from the ears ....modded-tig.jpg

    Blenkinsopp
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    23 Mar 2010 - 8:38 AM
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    I learned photoshop on a "need to know" basis as I found working through books tedious. When you need to do something try typing it into the search engine of you tube or just type photoshop tutorials - there are some excellent step by step videos on there.

    Last Modified By Blenkinsopp at 23 Mar 2010 - 8:39 AM
    nishad1994
    23 Mar 2010 - 8:43 AM
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    I like peterjones mod. It looks better without the growth from the ear !! Smile

    Nishad

    roxpix
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    23 Mar 2010 - 9:07 AM
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    Thanks Peter, yeah we'd discussed this above yesterday too & I think everyone will agree that the side clutter needs to come out too, especially once the horns are gone, infact after yesterday's advice I posted my own efforts into the gallery which is a lot closer to the original presentation I wanted for this image where I've taken away all clutter leaving the tiger & the tree to illustrate the texture/colours between the bark, moss & fur

    Thanks again to all for the help

    Jestertheclown
    Jestertheclown (e2 Member)
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    23 Mar 2010 - 9:44 AM
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    See Alan,

    You can do it!

    Like northernlight, I've learned to use Photoshop as and when I've needed to. Prior to getting CS2 I used Serif PhotoPlus (I still do) which is kind of the equivalent to Elements, I believe, and much of what I learned came from using that.

    I don't think I could be bothered with reading a book unless it was to find out something specific. Although having said that, I got one for Christmas and I do find it useful.

    Also, I collect the "Tip of the day" tutorials at the top of the main gallery on here. I just open them and save the whole page as a Pdf. I've got forty at the moment and I've had a go at most of them just to practice, even if I don't need or want the resulting image, it's not a bad way to pass a wet afternoon!

    Jester.

    Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 23 Mar 2010 - 9:44 AM
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