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monstersnowman
6 Oct 2013 - 10:52 PM

We'd only have to redistribute it again a few years later to maintain fair & equal distribution of wealth .. I may as well blow mine in some Romanesque orgy of excess till i have nothing then wait till it gets redistributed back - then off i go again lol .. Wink

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keith selmes
7 Oct 2013 - 12:07 AM

One thing I wasn't clear about is whether the trillions of wealth are actually cash money and piles of gold that could be accessed, or whether they are theoretical sums based on the value of property, yachts, jewelry, investments, businesses owned etc., which can change value quite rapidly. Assuming the latter, I expect cashing in and dividing out would be pretty nigh impossible.

Hallie
Hallie  1166 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Oct 2013 - 12:10 AM


Quote: It should stimulate the entertainment, automotive and building industries quite nicely.

When do we start ?

After we've taken it off the idiots from this one! Where have you been?


Quote: then off i go again lol .. Wink

If you see your mate Joe Hart, mention his eye brows.

monstersnowman
7 Oct 2013 - 12:21 AM

He may aswell blow it on eyebrow shaping till you take it all off him Grin that and dandruff shampoo ...

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110288 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
7 Oct 2013 - 7:19 AM


Quote: One thing I wasn't clear about is whether the trillions of wealth are actually cash money and piles of gold that could be accessed, or whether they are theoretical sums based on the value of property, yachts, jewelry, investments, businesses owned etc., which can change value quite rapidly. Assuming the latter, I expect cashing in and dividing out would be pretty nigh impossible.

As I read it, its the latter, a theoretical value of all aspects of owned wealth - so yes, like most of the concept of fair distribution of wealth "Pretty nigh impossible" Smile

collywobles
7 Oct 2013 - 11:41 AM

One way we could distribute wealth in addition is to share some of the tax credits, unemployment and housing benefit that the better off pay for, or maybe, just maybe the lefties wont see that as fair..............

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Hallie
Hallie  1166 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Oct 2013 - 12:50 PM


Quote: One way we could distribute wealth in addition is to share some of the tax credits, unemployment and housing benefit that the better off pay for, or maybe, just maybe the lefties wont see that as fair..............

You'll probably find its tax payers who pay for that, contrary to what the Daily Mail tells you.

There aren't any commies under the bed, there never was Wink

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110288 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
7 Oct 2013 - 4:43 PM


Quote: There aren't any commies under the bed, there never was Wink

that is cos they is all in the closet! Tongue

collywobles
8 Oct 2013 - 11:16 AM


Quote: You'll probably find its tax payers who pay for that, contrary to what the Daily Mail tells you.

Of course its the tax payers, as I said previously its the higher earners who contribute the most to the exchequer which keep the benefits system going. So we in return, if you want a share of our money we want a share of your benefits

Hallie
Hallie  1166 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Oct 2013 - 2:13 PM


Quote: You'll probably find its tax payers who pay for that, contrary to what the Daily Mail tells you.

Of course its the tax payers, as I said previously its the higher earners who contribute the most to the exchequer which keep the benefits system going. So we in return, if you want a share of our money we want a share of your benefits

As someone brought up wealth redistribution here's a little something put simply for you.

Here's something else. This is Peter. I met him yesterday, he suffers with PTSD. He gets 58 a week from the government and no other help. The homeless shelter he uses is getting knocked down and replaced with luxury flats. This is the reality for some people in 'Great' Britain in 2013. As much as you may deny poverty exists its very real for some people. So when you're all redistributing wealth spare a thought for him.

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collywobles
8 Oct 2013 - 2:58 PM


Quote: As someone brought up wealth redistribution here's a little something put simply for you.

Also its a one sided argument and as quoted in some of the Reponses its missing lots of other facts which contribute to both rich & poor. . Some people have a more expensive car than I have, I do not envy them or begrudge them it. That's life, get over it

Also, can you please send me a link to the luxury flats complex, with the governments new changes on the mortgage assistance it might be time for some more investment opportunities.

Hallie
Hallie  1166 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Oct 2013 - 3:01 PM


Quote: As someone brought up wealth redistribution here's a little something put simply for you.

Also its a one sided argument and as quoted in some of the Reponses its missing lots of other facts which contribute to both rich & poor. . Some people have a more expensive car than I have, I do not envy them or begrudge them it. That's life, get over it

Also, can you please send me a link to the luxury flats complex, with the governments new changes on the mortgage assistance it might be time for some more investment opportunities.

Your degree of ignorance is nothing short of astounding.

collywobles
8 Oct 2013 - 3:07 PM

Hallie - You bite every time! (8o)

I agree with most of what you say, but your immediate responses were just an opportunity to good to miss. (8o) (8o) Sorry

gcarth
gcarth e2 Member 102290 forum postsgcarth vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
9 Oct 2013 - 10:51 AM


Quote: Hallie - You bite every time! (8o)

I agree with most of what you say, but your immediate responses were just an opportunity to good to miss. (8o) (8o) Sorry

Colin, I naturally agree with Hallie 100%.
Of course, you're right to say that envy can sometimes come into the equation, but I think the the real problem is not envy but the genuine hardship suffered by so many of the underpaid poor (particularly among the disabled) that is totally unjust and cruel.
It seems a bit childish to play games and mock Hallie for "biting every time" when he makes such important points about the real injustices of our society.
If you think nations like us just need to look to Denmark as a "best practice" benchmark: The Danes are by all accounts, the happiest people in the world. There is no real poverty there - they pay high taxes and that narrows the gap between rich and poor.
No honest socialist would suggest that everyone should have, or indeed could have, absolute equality because everyone has different needs - for example I don't want a car - I can't drive. I'm more than happy with my cameras and guitars.
However, the fact is that in terms of the proportion of earnings and or income, the rich pay less than the poor. SmileSad

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110288 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
9 Oct 2013 - 3:08 PM


Quote: However, the fact is that in terms of the proportion of earnings and or income, the rich pay less than the poor. SmileSad

just to play devil's advocate for a moment, the rich also employ more people than the poor so contribute to the wealth of the nation in more ways than just through their tax? Smile

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