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    Perry_95
    Perry_95  359 forum posts Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
    14 May 2011 - 11:31 PM

    Need to get work experiance sorted, am interested in anything to do with animals (oceanography is a career option in mind), science (I excell at science), business/accountancy (very independant and good mathematicion) and photography (i love it).

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    KarenFB
    KarenFB Junior Gallery Team 84270 forum postsKarenFB vcard England162 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 7:43 AM

    Hi Perry, good luck with your career - I doubt you'll find work experience in Oceanography, but perhaps there is a Wildlife Park/Zoo near you that would let you volunteer. Smile

    Grampy
    Grampy  4507 forum posts England71 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 10:01 AM

    Perry, try to find the best specialist there is in what you want to do, go and knock on his door even if you have to travel, I'm sure that you can find a way of finding out when he will be there ! Ask him if you can talk to him about his work, telephoning doesn't work unless you invent some story about wanting to interview him about his work for a college mag.
    All photographers like to talk about their work, then turn the conversation around to how do I start.
    This is the best way, it worked for me and all my assistants came to the door, I never even saw one that telephoned. You have to show CONFIDENCE that you really WANT to learn.

    thewilliam
    15 May 2011 - 10:55 AM

    Perry, spell check your letters before you send them.

    I have to disagree with Grampy in that I don't welcome cold-callers of any sort. In this studio, everything happens by appointment. You could ask for 90 seconds of the target's time and practice what you'll say in this time.

    whipspeed
    whipspeed e2 Member 104040 forum postswhipspeed vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 11:06 AM

    Agree with William, spell and grammar check everything before you send it and then get someone, either parent or teacher to proof read for you. If your first approach to anyone is by letter, it needs to be right.

    Set out your aims, according to the place you are applying to, don't make it vague. ie I like this and that and also this. They need to feel that you are interested in what they do as a career. Also set down any experience you have and also any qualifications already gained and also if you have done any extra curricular work or volunteering (that can go down well).

    Another point is to make everything in your letter positive, no negative words.

    If you go to see someone, wear a suit or something smart and be as Grampy says, confident, but not over so.

    This is the advice we gave our son when he was going for a sponsorship through uni, which he subsequently got and is now being paid to go to uni and is working through his holidays, giving him a real head start.

    Grampy
    Grampy  4507 forum posts England71 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 11:30 AM

    As a photographer the only criteria I wanted for an assistant was a non smoker someone who wanted to work, willing to do anything and of course interested in the subject.
    If I wanted someone who could write letters , I would look for a secretary .
    My technique enabled me to be an assistant to 4 top advertising photographers in Europe, I certainly wouldn't have had those jobs if I had written letters like all the others.
    Carlton studios advertised in the BJ for an assistant they had over two hundred replies, the job eventually went to a cold caller , me, believe me it's the best way to jump the long list of potential assistants.

    whipspeed
    whipspeed e2 Member 104040 forum postswhipspeed vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 11:56 AM

    I suppose my post was more related to the other jobs that he was describing, science (the area my son is working in being biomedical science), business & accounting.

    But even as a photographer, you still have to communicate with clients, either on the phone or by email, occasionally still by letter, so those communication skills still have a place.

    So yes, by all means get in there and cold call, but don't forget to present yourself well.

    Grampy
    Grampy  4507 forum posts England71 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 12:04 PM

    That's the advantage of cold calling you can show straight away who you are, it also proves your interest. Wink

    whipspeed
    whipspeed e2 Member 104040 forum postswhipspeed vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 12:06 PM

    Whilst you are there you can also hand them a well written CV Wink

    Perry_95
    Perry_95  359 forum posts Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 12:06 PM

    Well, I am in touch with a proffesional photographer who has offered me a master class after i won a competition in my area, and i know that my photography teacher would be able to help too, I can travel to Cardiff so am not worried about not being able to find places available and i am sure that my C.V is up to scratch considering i am only looking for work experiance which is compulsory in my school. What kinds of places would be good for me if i decided my future lay in business or accountancy? and how do i get in touch? do i find out the name and address of the boss and knock on his door, or do i send a letter, or walk into the office and speak with the secratary? would working in small camera shops such as camerland or jacobs which opperate in my area be a good all rounder since it shows that i wold have people skills, photography knowledge, and the ability to sell? thanks everyone for their input

    whipspeed
    whipspeed e2 Member 104040 forum postswhipspeed vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
    15 May 2011 - 12:12 PM

    If you are looking into accountancy firms, you could go in and leave a letter addressed to the Managing Director if a small company or the HR Department if a large firm, you could also phone and say that you are at school and interested in going into accounting and ask if you could spend a day with the company. Also ask you careers department about work experience as they may have a list of companies that take people in for a week from your school.
    Working in a shop will give you a reference if you are good, you just need to ask if they need any Saturday staff. Another thing that seems to go down well on a CV is doing the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme as it shows commitment to a project.

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