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bigalguitarpicker

Just wondering if there's any quick way to see what images I've posted in the group? Like a "See my Posts" button?

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cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2013 - 8:32 PM

Whadya mean...this is really active WinkGrinGrin

Gundog
Gundog  1624 forum posts Scotland
8 Mar 2013 - 7:49 PM

Just joined the group - but it seems kinda moribund. Is anyone out there?

pink
pink  111733 forum posts United Kingdom5 Constructive Critique Points
11 Feb 2013 - 9:16 PM

Hello,
I have been into all things photographic for many years.
Always loved mono hence joining this group. I am a member of a camera club (www.nops.org.uk) a mono print circle and a mono local print group.
Hope to see some stunning work.
Ian

davekeen
davekeen  5 United Kingdom
10 Feb 2013 - 2:49 PM

hi i have been doing photography many years started in film, and in a dark room doing mono prints ,my preferd subject is landscape ,i have Photoshop cs4 but struggle with it so i do basic dark room stuff

capto
capto e2 Member 21247 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
5 Feb 2013 - 9:42 AM

As I get older and greyerI think that I may be glimpsing the secret of photography at last.
Only photograph what you like, not others.
Use software in a subtle way, many images are spoilt by over processing.
Expensive kit is not a magical way to become an expert, only you can do that.
Realise that most of us will only ever be average at best.
Just enjoy the hobby for what it is.
Practice, practice.
Enjoy the work of the more talented and help those that are finding their way.

ivor

Gypsyman
Gypsyman  4659 forum posts England
4 Feb 2013 - 5:04 PM

I am no great Photographer more a snap-shotter, but I do like Mono. I have only one compact Camera - Casio EX-H15. and Photoshop 7, but a kind offer of Lightbox 4
has been recieved and hopefully it will improve my efforts somewhat, we will see.
My hope is that I will be helped to achieve a fair level by your comments on my uploads. Eric.

JawDborn
JawDborn e2 Member 2754 forum postsJawDborn vcard England
29 Jan 2013 - 2:05 PM

Hi Everyone,

Before the digital revolution I did D&P of B&W in a makeshift darkroom. The camera club to which I belong shows little interest in mono, so I have since digitilisation been mainly printing in colour. Since joining EPZ has my interest in mono has returned.
I am using AE10 and CS 5 and since following this group's activities have just bought LR4.

dubstar62
dubstar62  1
25 Jan 2013 - 4:56 PM

Hello to everyone,
I use a Lumix G1 with a contax 50mm prime lens as well as some old Olympus 35mm om10 lenses on an adapter..
Not a fan of Photoshop and other correction fluids,i try to take pictures of life as i see it with small corrections in contrast,aperture,iso...
Each to their own..

marktc
marktc e2 Member 448 forum postsmarktc vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2013 - 8:04 AM

Good morning all, I have been on a pretty steep learning curve since joining epz and think I'm just starting to get to grips with some of techniques that appeal to me.

I don't know if its because I grew up in the 60's with my father slaving over mono images, or whether its just that mono images have more atmosphere, but I do find myself drawn to it, which sadly my wife doesn't share and constantly accuses me of draining the life from images!

I mainly use:

Apature,
SilverEffex pro 2
Adobe CS5.1 (but rarely use this).
I'm hoping to learn more on how to preserve tonality when doing conversions so that I don't end up with a flat image!

Regards

Mark

helenlinda
helenlinda e2 Member 7338 forum postshelenlinda vcard United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jan 2013 - 8:03 PM

Hi folks
I've been on the sire for a few years now, but I only convert the occasional image to mono.
I've been using a Canon 450D for the past year and prior to that I had a Fuji Finepix S960
I use CS3 and my got my head around it using "Cs3 for Dummies" - well worth the £18
I've never joined a camera club and intended to take up photography when I retired as I worked long hours. However I had life threatening pancreatitus in 2004 and took nearly a year to get going again. After that I felt why wait - I may not make retirement - so glad I got started
I'm here to learn
Helen

topsyrm
topsyrm e2 Member 327 forum poststopsyrm vcard
6 Jan 2013 - 9:45 AM

Hi just started a 52 B&W only for 2013 here on Ephotozine so I thought this forum would be a great place to draw inspiration.

rontear
rontear e2 Member 11rontear vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
3 Jan 2013 - 5:13 PM

Hello Everybody,
Hope you all had a special festive season Smile We certainly did. Monochrome is where it began and it has seen a revival since digital has almost equalled the darkroom. Evocative, provocative, emotional and stripped to trhe bare bones. Long may it last !!
Ron.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 1:51 PM

Just been to Amsterdam for a few days...and got the chance to go to their `foam' museum where they have a Diane Arbus exhibition on. A little weird but she had a knack of getting the best out of her subjects. Worth a look if you're overe there at all Smile

Last Modified By cats_123 at 11 Dec 2012 - 1:52 PM
chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2012 - 11:44 AM

Thanks Jeff,
Interesting reading and some great images.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
7 Nov 2012 - 10:33 PM

The still unfolding legend of Vivien Maier

worth a look if you have a few moments Smile

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
7 Nov 2012 - 2:55 PM


Quote: I really like the idea of comments and criticism but as I have a lot to learn, I don't like the idea of criticising someones work. All I am going on is if I like the image or not.
The idea of a "help" section is great and I am sure would be well used.

Dave
You could always comment on what you like/admire about the image without neccessarily giving critique. Other opinions are usually appreciated by members whether beginners or old hands.

Perhaps the best way to start a "help" section would be to ask for advice from the other group members. There is a comprehensive tutorials section here on EPZ as well.

Bill

DaveTurner
7 Nov 2012 - 2:10 PM

I really like the idea of comments and criticism but as I have a lot to learn, I don't like the idea of criticising someones work. All I am going on is if I like the image or not.
The idea of a "help" section is great and I am sure would be well used.

Bonvilston
7 Nov 2012 - 11:42 AM

Icertainly concur with this idea. When can we start ????? Grin.....Peter

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
7 Nov 2012 - 9:49 AM

I'm more than happy to take constructive critique. As capto says, I think it would also help to discuss how an effect can be achieved. Smile

capto
capto e2 Member 21247 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
7 Nov 2012 - 9:23 AM


Quote: On the subject of critique/comments on images, are all members of the group happy to accept critique/comments or do some wish to opt out?
I ask as there seems to be a perceived reluctance to offer comments or critique for fear of upsetting the uploader.

I would welcome any comments on my uploads as I am currently exploring different directions and it would be very beneficial to me to get the honest opinions of other members.
Personally I would love to see this group evolve into a discussion forum (with images) to explore mono as a creative medium and to share the wealth of talent within the membership.

Bill

I too would welcome the evolvement of a discussion forum. It would be very informative to ask the question 'I like that effect, how to you do it?' or I want to achieve a particular effect, can anyone help me? The feedback would be of great assistance.
ivor

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
6 Nov 2012 - 6:29 PM

On the subject of critique/comments on images, are all members of the group happy to accept critique/comments or do some wish to opt out?
I ask as there seems to be a perceived reluctance to offer comments or critique for fear of upsetting the uploader.

I would welcome any comments on my uploads as I am currently exploring different directions and it would be very beneficial to me to get the honest opinions of other members.
Personally I would love to see this group evolve into a discussion forum (with images) to explore mono as a creative medium and to share the wealth of talent within the membership.

Bill

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
6 Nov 2012 - 1:54 PM

Hi all
Apologies for my absence recently.


The sharing of honest, constructive critique was one of the main reasons for starting this group.
I tried to make the critique policy clear in the heading of the group with a link to critique guidlines.
If you look to the early days of this group, there were some very honest (and constructive) comments.

May I suggest that all members re read the opening statement and try to follow the requirements of providing processing details, exif info etc when uploading.
Explaining why the picture was taken, what drew you to the image etc and why/how the processing used has complimented or changed the image would help to get a dialogue going on images.

Whilst it is true that it is sometimes difficult to give constructive critique to some images when uploaded without any details, maybe if there were a few lines with the required info/explanation it would help.

It seems to be the norm with groups that there are a small number of active members but by improving the quality of info provided and quality of feedback maybe this will change.

As the opening statement on the group home page asks that members do not become upset by negative feedback I would say that if in your opinion honest critique, albeit negative is called for then as long as it`s polite and constructive then by all means post it.

Bill

Jestertheclown
6 Nov 2012 - 12:31 PM

Peter,
If you and presumably the other members here, would like critique to be applied to your images, you'll only receive it if you either: specifically, personally ask for it on each upload, ie. write "I want critique" in bold, italic caps., at the top of your description or: and I think that this is a better option, get the group's leader, is it still Bill? to promote the idea of applying critique across the board and explain, in no uncertain terms, how it should be applied.
Have a look at this thread.
The relevant bit begins on page 2, I think.
The downside of that method is that you can't opt-out. In other words, anyone looking for "nice light, cracking shot," type comments on a shot that's a load of rubbish, might not like what they actually receive!
Just a thought.

Bren.

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 6 Nov 2012 - 12:32 PM
Bonvilston
6 Nov 2012 - 11:48 AM

Bren,

I agree with your sentiments entirely. I joined this site because I want to improve my photography and to learn from others with more talent and experience. critique is essential to this process. I do try to put the odd bit of critique when i am commenting on other people's images, but I do hold back as it feels a bit like walking on egg shells and I do not want to upset anyone. I would certainly welcome critique on images in this group.

As for the numbers in the group, I know exactly what you mean. I became an e2 member and paid my fees because I had looked at all the groups and activities on ePhotozine. If you get all of that then it is good value for money. Only after that did I come to realise that there are hundreds of groups with plenty of members but zero activity. There are competitions and challenges but not that many and most are quite restrictive. Take the Monday night challenge - a big one. I can see a role for that but taking a picture on a specific topic on the evening of the challenge is not my reason for being a photographer. I do not want to make it like a camera club, where they often live for the competition nights, but at least they get constructive feedback on the shots they enter, even if it is from a narrow range of "experts", usually with very specific rules to apply when deciding a "good image", whereas for me breaking these rules often creates the exceptional images that stand out from the crowd.

Perhaps we need a campaign to get more people involved in activity, though it is a voluntary site and people can't be forced to do anything. Simply looking through images and adding "nice snap" doesn't really do it for me I am afraid.

Peter

Jestertheclown
6 Nov 2012 - 11:26 AM

That's a problem that all of the groups have and there's no obvious solution.
Getting people to comment isn't easy and getting any kind of worthwhile critique is even more difficult.
Offering critique anywhere other than the CG is a minefield. There are far too many prima donnas and easily bruised egos out there; I speak from experience!
There's a feeling in the 'Black and white challenge' group (and I'd apply that to the 'B/W' group as well), that members would like to have mods. enabled.
It's an idea worth considering and if we are able to go down that road, critique would seemingly be an integral part of it.
Perhaps you could try the same in here?
As yet, I haven't approached the site to see whether we can do it but it's under consideration.
As for having 100 odd members, I suspect a fair proportion of those will have joined by accident when they posted a comment or in some way looked at the group, so the number of people potentially posting images may well be considerably fewer than that.
In fact, I've just had to look down your list of members to see if I'm one of them. It appears that I was the second person to sign up!

Bren.

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 6 Nov 2012 - 11:26 AM
capto
capto e2 Member 21247 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
6 Nov 2012 - 11:02 AM

Congratulations, getting close to 100 members. Unfortunately too many are not active. This could be an appropriate time to canvas opinions from active members of their likes and dislikes regarding their experiences of the group. Any ideas for enhancing the group could be interesting.
My own thoughts are that too few members are offering comments/critique, this often encourages the killer 'Apathy'.

Bonvilston
30 Oct 2012 - 11:06 AM

Hi all. I am Peter and I live in South Wales ( near to cardiff ). I use entirely digital now but I used to have a home darkroom and used old fashioned 35mm film. I like to expand my range of styles as I go along, always willing to try something new, but I have always had a soft spot for monochrome. I now use a Canon 600D and mostly shoot in RAW. I look forward to posting some of my Monochrome work on here and learning from you guys. Grin

Snapper
Snapper  93771 forum posts United States Minor Outlying Islands3 Constructive Critique Points
29 Oct 2012 - 5:43 PM


Quote: Just come across this....Arthur Grace's Photos of American Life ....might be worth a look? V9 is my favourite Smile

just might give you some inspiration SmileSmileSmile

go to Full Screen to view

I think no. 9 might actually be EPZ Towers, although I'm guessing they'd probably see themselves more as no. 10! Wink

This link is also worth a look.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
29 Oct 2012 - 4:50 PM

just come across this....Arthur Grace's Photos of American Life ....might be worth a look? V9 is my favourite Smile

just might give you some inspiration SmileSmileSmile

go to Full Screen to view

puertouk
puertouk  31080 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
24 Oct 2012 - 5:59 PM

Hi everybody,
I came across this today and it may be of some help for people with Photoshop. It has video training for black & white, plus some more. Links here
Hope it's of some help
Stephen

Snapper
Snapper  93771 forum posts United States Minor Outlying Islands3 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 6:18 PM

Evening all

I've found my way here via the weekly b&w challenge group and I've been on the site for several years. I used to have my own b&w darkroom and actually still have all the gear, but I haven't printed for a few years. I still develop the odd b&w film in 120 and 5x4, but again this hasn't been a productive year on film I'm afraid.

As far as digital goes, I have been using Elements 9 after upgrading from Elements 5, but I also got Lightroom 3 when the prices plummeted earlier in the year. I've only scratched the surface of Lightroom and really need to get to grips with it over the winter months. My other recent purchase was a secondhand Nikon D70 converted to IR, and I've been enjoying a few days out with it.

Peter

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 4:19 PM

a warm welcome to igeraldine, leakiss, zebastianus and fotomat SmileSmile

fotomat
fotomat  2 Austria
17 Oct 2012 - 12:19 PM

Hi members,

my name is Henrik - and I am a German living in Austria fumbling around with a Canon 5d Mk II and various lenses. I use Lightroom for perparing photos for the finishing touch in Photoshop. Most of the time I do my black & white conversions with SilverEfex Pro.

See you around,
Henrik

leakiss
leakiss  6 United Kingdom
16 Oct 2012 - 2:09 PM

Hi my name is leakiss. been taking pictures the best part of 50 years/ favourite subject is architecture. I use various cameras both 5x4 6x4.5 and 35mm. digitaly i have a cannon g6 and a sony 390 on wich i can use the lenses off my minolta. a member of our local camera club and i also speak to clubs in the WCPF on churches and cathedrals. I am also on the judging panel of WCPF and PAGB. John

zebastianus
8 Oct 2012 - 2:02 AM

hallo
I thomassebastianus from Indonesia, trying to share the images in black and white

igeraldine
21 Sep 2012 - 7:59 PM

Hello All

I'm Geraldine and I'm based in Iceland. I use a Nikon D90 and a few lenses. My favourite is probably a Tokina 12-24 mm, I'm really into wide angle landscape and have just ordered a Tamaron 11-16mm, it's fast and great for our northern lights (not really a mono subject!) I'm also enjoying mono portraits. I use Lightroom 4.1. I started out with Photoshop Elements but was glad when introduced to Lightroom as I found it to be more intuitive; now I use Lightroom 4.1 I have just recently been developing some of my images with mono conversions and I'm looking forward to picking up some tips and ideas from the other group members, as well as seeing some inspiring images.

G

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2012 - 5:38 PM

Welcome Cyril,

Look forward to seeing some of your mono images.

Bill

clmsdeeming
17 Sep 2012 - 1:09 PM

Good afternoon all, I am starting from scratch here, although I have dabbled in photography for a good many years. I am interested in black and white photography and hope to post pictures when taken for critique. I do hope that this is the right group for me to join as your blurb does say 'for serious mono photographers'. Although I am serious in intent, I am certainly not yet serious in experience!! Should the weather be reasonable tonight I intend to be at the coast and will hopefully have something to upload this weekend.

gavrelle
gavrelle  231 forum posts England
15 Sep 2012 - 10:06 PM

Thanks i am already!!

User_Removed
15 Sep 2012 - 3:34 PM

Welcome Kyle.

With your background, I am sure you will enjoy this group.

gavrelle
gavrelle  231 forum posts England
14 Sep 2012 - 7:14 PM

Just to do a brief intro after posting my first pic. i am 48 now, a Radiographer by profession. I started photography in my mid teens. I am well versed with film and darkrooms!!. I shoot now with a D300 for digital, for film i use a Pentax ME super which was my 18th Birthday present, a nikon F80 and medium format with a Mamiya RB67. I develop the film and scan using a canon scanner. As a student 28 yrs ago i photographed the London docklands, then derelict and run down, esp around Wapping. This year I returned and stood in the footsteps of my past and reshot wit hthe same camera and lens. Wow what a difference nearly 30 yrs makes, Wapping has gone from wasteland to posh. Anyhow i have a passion for black and white.

Jestertheclown

Thanks Jeff.

Bookmarked for later.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
6 Sep 2012 - 8:59 AM

Hi All

thought you might be interested in this article about Henri Cartier-Bresson? Smile

jeff

Andysnapper
Andysnapper e2 Member 6105 forum postsAndysnapper vcard England18 Constructive Critique Points
30 Aug 2012 - 6:20 PM

Hi,

Just noticed this group and having had a look at the images posted I'm very impressed, some lovely work. I shoot both film and digital but my real love is medium format b&w. I have way too many cameras but I mainly use a Yashica Mat EM for medium format and a Nikon D300 for digital.
My software is Elements 9 and Topaz black & white with an Epson V500 for scanning my negatives.

I usually pop onto EPZ a few times during the day so hopefully I can post a few pics and take time to comment on others. I'm looking forward to seeing how everyone else converts their images.

Cheers

Andy (Andysnapper)

Jestertheclown
26 Aug 2012 - 3:41 PM


Quote: Erm hello everyone its me again, i mistakenly uploaded a pic to the weekly challenge its born to be wild nowt to do with furniture dohhhh does this mean i cannot take part in it now ? Tongue

Hi Rod,

Not at all, as Jeff has said, just delete your existing shot and upload another.
This time, one that does relate to furniture!

You can upload your existing shot into the 'Black and white group' gallery though, if you like.

Bren.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 3:29 PM


Quote: Hello everyone i better introduce myself

Hi Rod
welcome, we're all learning here Smile

there's also a Black & White Group..which started bfore this mono group but doesn't have the same expectation levels...here i think we're looking to analyse, comment, critique and offer help on techniques etc.etc...both have their merits and th more the merrier. Smile

others no doubt will disagree WinkGrinGrin

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 3:15 PM


Quote: Erm hello everyone its me again, i mistakenly uploaded a pic to the weekly challenge its born to be wild nowt to do with furniture dohhhh does this mean i cannot take part in it now ?

Hi Rod,
The black and white challenge is a different group.
I`m sure that if you have uploaded an image there by mistake, you can delete and re upload the correct image for the challenge.

Bill

widtink
widtink  2406 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 3:07 PM

Erm hello everyone its me again, i mistakenly uploaded a pic to the weekly challenge its born to be wild nowt to do with furniture dohhhh does this mean i cannot take part in it now ? Tongue

widtink
widtink  2406 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 9:52 AM

Hello everyone i better introduce myself though i have posted a couple of pictures already oops !! Iam totally new to digi photography but already drawn towards mono for some reason. I did read this group is for "serious mono enthusiasts" which iam not ie a total beginner so i hope thats ok. I recently bought a Nikon D 7000 which iam enjoying and also have a bridge camera which is quite nice.At the moment i have no real software but hoping to get PS for xmas
I only have a 50mm lens but my next buy is going to be sigma 10-20 mm. Hopefully you bunch will teach me the tricks of the trade.

Rod

bouic
bouic e2 Member 5bouic vcard United Kingdom
24 Aug 2012 - 11:15 PM

It looks like some of us come from the pre digital dark ages or age of enlightenment, take your pick. Pre digital by its very nature taught us to be careful with our images and in a sense made us disciplined in how we approached our picture taking. Digital on the other hand allows to have freedom and the opportunity to experiment without cost, and to have the immediacy of forums such as this in which to comment and change images. But i still feel that pre digital discipline has great merit which needs to be passed on to digital photographers. Having said that I would not go back, I love the freedom to experiment and maybe push my own creative boundaries. Keep this forum going its great fun, which is an essential element of photography.

Dave

wynn469
wynn469  572 forum posts Wales
24 Aug 2012 - 12:43 PM

I have been taking pictures for a few years, in the age of film did manly colour slides (Kodachrome 25) but tinkered with black and white oh for FP4 or HP5etc but needing space and time with young family.
But with the age of digital and family grown up I have bought a Canon pro 9000 mk11 using a mixture of Photoshop cs3 or cs5 lightroom 3 dependunt witch computer I am on.
I like printing of hanging up where I can asses’ image for a while before moving on to the next image.

Jestertheclown
23 Aug 2012 - 12:26 PM


Quote: Sermon over Wink

Makes perfect sense.

People shouldn't be concerned about others saying that their masterpieces aren't quite as masterful as they'd thought.
Thar's the whole point of putting an image up for critique. You do so, knowing, or at least, hoping that someone will tell how how it could/should/might be improved upon or how they might have done something differently.
And anyway, there's always the option to respond to any critique that's received. Politely question why something isn't right or how it might best be improved. Critique needs to be a two-way thing.
If, on the other hand, they're just looking for inane 'nice light, cracking shot' type comments, then they need to worm their way into a 'click clique,' I shouldn't think it's that difficult as this probably isn't the place for them.

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
23 Aug 2012 - 11:35 AM


Quote: We seem to be getting some quality uploads and some good, meaningful comment from a few dedicated members at the moment and it would be nice if more joined in but maybe early days yet. It may be a while yet (if the group survives) before we settle into being a showcase and discussion forum for serious mono work.

Like most fledgling ideas, it'll take a while to develop some substance, but we're getting there! I think we've currently got a great mix of abilities, expertise and rapport. One problem might be that some members feel they can't really say what they think or ask what they think is a dumb question without being shot down in flames? (As someone said to me early on, there's never a dumb question - only dumb answers.)

Given that we've specified from the outset that members who offer their work up for comment and critique need to be able to take on board (without getting offended) the thoughts and comments of other members, maybe we should stick a sign somewhere saying "Abandon all ego and grow a pair before joining ..." Grin

Yeah, it's hard when you think you've done a masterpiece and expect to get pats on the back and cries of "Wow, job done!". And then some bugger says "It's good, but ..." Smile But then that's not (hopefully) why we all joined up in the first place. I know that I've learned loads in the short space of time that this group has been going, and the critque, feedback and comments from you all has just been fantastic and inspired me to learn even more. I think I truly appreciate mono more now than ever.

So yes, the group is doing what it's supposed to do. But like anything good, it takes a while. As long as people join, and participate, with the right intentions, then we'll grow and flourish as a serious group.

Sermon over Wink

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
23 Aug 2012 - 8:26 AM

Thanks for the comments, input and uploads Dave,


Quote: I know you were a little upset earlier this week

Not upset, just thought the group needed a (maybe less than subtle) reminder that if we don`t use it we may well lose it.

We seem to be getting some quality uploads and some good, meaningful comment from a few dedicated members at the moment and it would be nice if more joined in but maybe early days yet.
It may be a while yet (if the group survives) before we settle into being a showcase and discussion forum for serious mono work.


Bill

bouic
bouic e2 Member 5bouic vcard United Kingdom
22 Aug 2012 - 11:09 PM

Hi Bill,

I know you were a little upset earlier this week, but can I say, that I really appreciate a discussion about 2of my prints, I have followed up the comments and feel that they have helped. I know that sometimes we like to think we know best, but I find another pair of eyes can just prod one in the direction of improvement. I think we should persevere with this forum.

Dave

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
22 Aug 2012 - 3:21 PM

in case anyone hasn't seen this free `tutorial' on mono conversion, I think it's quite useful..it covers photoshop and Lightroom 3 Smile

Jestertheclown
20 Aug 2012 - 9:33 AM


Quote: All info regarding the image is useful when offering up comments etc.

It might be a good idea if everyone was to have a look at this.
All the advice you need there regarding how to post and respond.

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2012 - 8:01 AM


Quote: We all have reasons why we took an image and reproduced it the way we do. Maybe, we should be encouraged to give reasons for why we took a particular image, and ask for comments.

Good idea Dave.
All info regarding the image is useful when offering up comments etc.

Bill

bouic
bouic e2 Member 5bouic vcard United Kingdom
20 Aug 2012 - 12:47 AM


Quote: Ok all.

Where are the comments and discussions on the images uploaded by those who could be bothered?
Sorry to be so blunt but if this group is to work and survive it needs some input from the members.
Any new forum topics (cropping, composition, conversion software, different approaches to achieving the perfect mono conversion etc, etc?

[quote]Ok all.

Hi Bill, being a newcomer to this type of forum, I am not one to go in all guns blazing, being in a camera club where some of the competition judges comments are so inane, I feel I need to be careful with my comments about other peoples work. We all have reasons why we took an image and reproduced it the way we do. Maybe, we should be encouraged to give reasons for why we took a particular image, and ask for comments.

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Aug 2012 - 9:50 PM

Ok all.

Where are the comments and discussions on the images uploaded by those who could be bothered?
Sorry to be so blunt but if this group is to work and survive it needs some input from the members.
Any new forum topics (cropping, composition, conversion software, different approaches to achieving the perfect mono conversion etc, etc?

AlanTW
AlanTW  11342 forum posts
19 Aug 2012 - 1:20 PM

My name is Alan and I'm a Monochrome shooter Wink

My mono days go back to the 1960's with all the wonderful, and frustrating alchemy of darkroom. I shoot with either a Nikon D300 or a Canon G11. My Nikon workflow is CaptureNX2 followed by NIK Silver Efex Pro 2 in CS5 my G11 workflow is ACR again followed by NIK Silver Efex Pro 2 in CS5.

I must admit that I've given up posting to the main ePZ galleries for a variety of reasons, but will start posting here as the group size will hopefully remain at a more manageable size

Alan

mookey
mookey  3 United Kingdom
19 Aug 2012 - 8:01 AM

Hi My name is Mal and new to the group. I use a 5dmk2 with mainly canon lenses. I have Photoshop cs3, Lightroom, Photomatix and about to buy Nik efex mono software.
I hope to upload some more images over the next few weeks.

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
18 Aug 2012 - 7:14 PM

Thanks Ivor
Would love to see it.
I have had the pleasure of seeing some Ansel adams prints and I agree that the experience was indeed inspirational.

Bill

capto
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18 Aug 2012 - 7:01 PM

Anyone seeking B&W inspiration take note; http://www.rmg.co.uk/visit/exhibitions/future/mountains-to-the-sea

aliquidvision
17 Aug 2012 - 11:43 AM

Hi;
Just got invited to this group. To introduce myself;

I'm David, i haven't been on EPZ for very long. I'm ressurecting my still photography having been out of the country and out of any useful internet connection. For the last years i have been working in the recreational diving industry and along with that have been concentrating on underwater video work, although i have built up a load of stills stuff as well.
Now i'm trying to find a meaningful direction for my photography on land, not yet sure where its going as i jump around from colour to B/W, to macro, landscape, architecture. I do have a very real interest in Mono photography and the simplicity that can be achieved. Most of my recent photos have been tinted mono landscapes.

Hard and software wise, i have a Nikon D300, Canon G11, Sony A1 HD Video camera and a growing collection of ancillary bits and pieces. I use Aperture on a Mac with an old version (CS3) of Photoshop (would love to upgrade but so expensive) most post i do is in Aperture and then i use PS for the layers facility.

Cheers

David

User_Removed
14 Aug 2012 - 10:30 PM

One per week appeals to me. Like Tanya, I don't see much need for a competitive element to it.

Jestertheclown
14 Aug 2012 - 9:40 PM

One a week sounds like a good idea to me too.
I can't be a***d with trawling through loads of shots, looking to give an opinion or critique. It also becomes particularly difficult when you're the only one doing it.
You really will have to make sure that the group gets loads of exposure in the regular forums though, otherwise it will go the way of all of the others.
Very quickly.

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chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 9:31 PM

If 30% of group membership (optimistic I know) were to upload 1 image per week that would keep us all going regards comments etc.
Maybe we do not need a "best image".

Bill

Gaucho
Gaucho e2 Member 122319 forum postsGaucho vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 6:22 PM

I'm for one a week as well. I got a bit bored because the Group was swamped with images initially. The idea of looking at a few might encourage folk to comment more, me included. I'm not too keen on the best of the week idea though.

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 5:13 PM

Initially, I didn't like the idea of a weekly winner as it might put the less prolific image makers off (me included) and would then probably always be won by someone who uploads lots of images regularly. However, the idea of one upload per week, per member, is much better IMO. It would (a) give members a chance to comment more on each image, rather than feeling overwhelmed by the number of uploads and (b) would also encourage those less prolific members to actually get out and take images for the purpose (me included Grin).

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chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 5:02 PM

Just a thought,
Picking up on Pete`s comment re "just one image" would it be an idea to restrict uploads to one per member per week to give plenty of scope for discussion etc?
The members could vote for the weekly winner or there could be one judge (the author of the winning image).

Bill

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 4:56 PM


Quote: why not introduce a image of the week winner


Sounds like It could be worth a go Stephen.
Perhaps running from Monday to Monday with no restrictions other than is must be Mono, the winner to be the judge for the next week?
What do we think folks?

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 11:40 AM

Hey, we can't be doing too bad ... we got the 'boss' to join!! Grin

Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318459 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 11:23 AM

The best way to gain activity is to create enthusiasm through the forums. So create activity type of threads and keep them going. That way more people looking in the forums will see them and may join in. What you really need to do is generate reason to either post or discuss. One issue with many of these groups is everyone posts pictures into the gallery as soon as it starts and hardly anyone comments due to the deluge of photos...so the members become despondent. It may be better to request just one photo either from within the group or choose a great photo you find in a magazine / book or on the web and post that for discussion. What makes it so good, etc.
Or choose technical subjects - how to get the best tones using image editing software...and all share ho you do it etc.
The comments area is a bit of an odd thing really it's a concealed area designed so you can just leave comments about the group without it filtering into the general members eyes. . I just skimmed up from the beginning and it would have been great if these "introductions" had been made in a group introductions forum so again they would be seen by general forum visitors who may be encouraged to join.

Hope those ideas help a little Smile

puertouk
puertouk  31080 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 10:12 AM

Chavender, why not introduce a image of the week winner
Stephen

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 9:47 AM

Trouble is, I look at a lot of the images uploaded by the group members, and just think "Wow, wish I'd done that!". Even if conversion details, software etc are included, sometimes the standard is just so good that it's hard to think of any kind of critique at all and I'm just struck dumb - can't think of any questions, things I might have done to improve the image if I'd taken it etc. Or, even if I do and vocalise them ... there's always the assumption that the person who took the image would have (a) already thought of those things, and processed in a particular way to circumvent the problem, or (b) doesn't actually want to know my inane and probably daft observations Sad The group has become more of a showcase for excellence, rather than a gathering space for discussing technique, critiquing images and all the other reasons the group was started in the first place.

Rather than just adding a comment of "Excellent image"; "Superb capture" and other such (lovely, but non-instructive) comments, I want to be able to engage with an image, really study it and then formulate questions, ideas etc in my head before adding a comment. (And yes, I'm also guilty of adding complementary, but non-instructive, comments myself!). But that often takes time I don't have, and I don't want to just put up a comment that hasn't been thought through beforehand, and doesn't add anything to the dialogue. Yes, there are those images that are uploaded where people are looking for critique, or asking questions of the other members, but they seem to be few and far between. And often the questions/thoughts posed by the image's author are better answered by those members with more knowledge than others, so that could also be a reason why people often hang back and don't participate as much as we should.

See ... you're just all too good!! Tongue

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2012 - 8:13 AM

Unfortunately, after an initial burst of interest the group seems to be going the way of the original "Black and white" group.
There were a lot of uploads with no details provided, very few acknowledgments of comments or critique.
It is difficult to comment in a positive way on all uploads and disheartening when any comment provided does not generate a response.
It would seem that there is very little interest in "serious" mono.

Any suggestions for reviving interest would be appreciated.

Bill

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
13 Aug 2012 - 4:23 PM

Totally agree, but I for one don't have much time at the moment and I suspect this may be the case for others as well. Trying to fit any kind of photography around a huge workload which has nothing at all to do with photography doesn't leave much time, unfortunately. I'm trying to perfect a '10-minute dip' technique into the site, rather than spending hours on here in the evenings (which I suspect would p the other half off no end Smile). I could try reprocessing old images, but to be honest if they were cr*p to start with, then converting to mono probably won't make much difference, no matter what conversion technique I use Grin Hopefully when I start my course I'll be a bit more prolific (and knowledgeable).

User_Removed
13 Aug 2012 - 3:47 PM

The discussion seems to have died a death. Went for 2 weeks holiday and no fresh topics or posts while I was away.

Still the odd new image being posted but the discussion on each image tends to be very sparse and practically nothing on the techniques employed which, I think, was one of the main purposes behind this group.

Is there any way of revitalising it before it goes the way of so many good ideas on ePz? For example, can the group be "headlined" on the front page regularly?

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2012 - 3:58 PM

Hi All
Could I please request that when uploading images, some details of the processing and EXIF where available is included plus any info you consider relevant.

The group was set up to discuss mono images and share processing expertise and to offer honest critique.
To enable this to work for the benefit of all it is essential (and good manners) to reply to any critique offered.

To maintain the original purpose of the group and to receive comment and critique I would also request that some consideration be given to quality control before uploading.

I certainly have learned a lot and seen some great images in the short time since starting the group and would like it to continue as planned.

My thanks to those that are already doing the above.

Bill

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2012 - 2:25 PM

No problem Eric, you're more than welcome. I've just had a quick look through your portfolio, and to be honest there's some great images in there that would be fantastic for trying various techniques on ... lots of good bold colours and nicely simple compositions. Converting those images with something like the channel mixer in PS7 would certainly give a good indication of how that particular technique works in terms of converting colour to black and white Grin

Gypsyman
Gypsyman  4659 forum posts England
24 Jul 2012 - 1:39 PM

TanyaH. Thank you sincerely for your kind act of sending me me the Web links. Eric.

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2012 - 11:39 AM


Quote: TanyaH, Could you tell me the way you get your best B&W from Colour on PS7.? Thank you, Eric.

Hi Eric

"My best B&W ..." - while that's an extremely flattering thought, I'm very much still in a huge learning curve myself and wouldn't say I've even got a definitive workflow for converting to B&W from colour in PS7, let alone one that allows me to get the best conversion! Grin

However, there are a couple of resources that have helped me understand the different conversion processes better - one here by Northlight Images, where I've found the Channel Mixer technique useful to play with in PS7 (although some of his screenshots are from later versions of Photoshop CS, a lot of the techniques he describes are still able to be done in PS7), and another here, by All Things Photography (which I've looked at, but never followed).

Hope that helps a bit. Ultimately, it's about trying out a few different techniques and settling on one that suits your workflow, the time you want to spend adjusting images and results in you being happy with what you produce.

Tanya

Gypsyman
Gypsyman  4659 forum posts England
23 Jul 2012 - 6:53 PM

TanyaH, Could you tell me the way you get your best B&W from Colour on PS7.? Thank you, Eric.

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jul 2012 - 2:29 PM


Quote: Quote: It would interest me greatly to hear about using PS7

Goggz & LeftForum, thanks for your shown interest, my programme is Photoshop 7. yes truly old. Eric.

Don't worry Gypsyman, you're not alone - I also use PS7 at home Smile Although I have to admit, having access to CS5 at work is making it very hard to continue to think that PS7 is the dog's doodahs ... but, that's what I've got at the moment, and that's what I have to use. I try not to do my own stuff at work, but occasionally tweak it and upload from there as it's easier. My PC at home that's got my artwork on it isn't connected to the internet, and if I have my way never will be! Of course, that does mean that it's limited in terms of what software I can put on it nowadays, as most software requires an internet connection as part of the install process. Damn stupid idea, in my opinion Grin

Gypsyman
Gypsyman  4659 forum posts England
23 Jul 2012 - 2:12 PM

Quote: It would interest me greatly to hear about using PS7

Goggz & LeftForum, thanks for your shown interest, my programme is Photoshop 7. yes truly old. Eric.

cdm36
cdm36 e2 Member 10391 forum postscdm36 vcard England7 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2012 - 10:53 PM

Just a few words, started photography around 2004 with the purchase of a digital camera, experimenting with different things but having a love of macro and landcapes. Always liked a good mono,

Mainly convert using Capture one, then into Cs5 where I normally do a colour version I am happy with before saving as a Tiff version, then copying and converting to mono with a black and white adjustment layer and possibly a bit of dodging and burning.


Chris.

User_Removed
22 Jul 2012 - 2:30 PM

Maybe he means Elements 7?

Goggz
Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2012 - 1:04 PM


Quote: It would interest me greatly to hear about using PS7

Not sure what you mean Gypsyman, but this sounds as though it's a very old version of Photoshop. The last incarnation I used was PS CS3 and I don't really use PS at all now... the point perhaps is if yours is an ancient interation you won't get much help on it as peeps will have moved on a long way in the meantime.

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Gypsyman
Gypsyman  4659 forum posts England
21 Jul 2012 - 1:02 PM

Hi, I am more of a snap-shotter than a Photographer, having only a compact camera,which was bought for me Christmas 2010.
I am a member of the 2 other B&W groups, getting very few comments on my efforts. I do have on this computer given to me
by my grandson PS7, but my efforts at Mono have been done by Desaturation or turning colour to mono via Greyscale.
It would interest me greatly to hear about using PS7, the magazines I buy cover later versions. Eric.

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73906 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jul 2012 - 10:25 AM

I've been on EPZ since 1997. I've always had a preference for monos, probably harking back to the time in the darkroom.

Processing, well I use whatever it takes to get my previsualisations, I've used individual channels, gradient maps, SEFEX2, calculations, Gorman method, LAB often combining many of these methods.

75% of my mono work is previsualised, concentrating on shapes and textures, also understanding colour helps immensely ( red in the red channel comes out white(ish) in the blue a very dark grey).

Best bit of advice I was given don't be afraid of 0 and 10 ( look up Ansel Adams zone system).

Why have I joined the group, well I'm always on the look out for new ideas, and may upload a few of my monos, both the ones that I'm happy with and some of my earlier flops that were dire.

Jestertheclown
20 Jul 2012 - 3:10 PM

I really must get something sorted out and uploaded to here!

The enthusiasm is present; the time to use it, sadly isn't. Perhaps over the weekend . . .

Gaucho
Gaucho e2 Member 122319 forum postsGaucho vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2012 - 12:11 PM

Yep. Will do from now on.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2012 - 10:06 AM

I don't know whether anyone agrees, but I think it would be useful if `modifications' were set on upload (where you can). I often like to `play' with settings on images that others have taken - just to see the effect/result and sometimes it helps make a point if we think something can be improved. What do you think? Smile

Gaucho
Gaucho e2 Member 122319 forum postsGaucho vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2012 - 8:23 PM

I have been a member of ePHOTOzine for 10 years. I am retired and have lived in the south of France for 9 years. I used to dabble with B&W printing in my film days but not with too much success. Since turning to digital I have become more interested and although predominantly a colour photographer would like to improve my skills. There are a lot of buildings and landscapes in and around our village which suit monochrome photography so here's hoping I can make the most of this.

Nikon D90, 10-20mm, 50 1.8, 70-300, 18-105
Canon iP4600 printer
I use Lightroom 4.1 almost exclusively these days and occasionally move over to Elements 9. For monochrome I use Topaz Labs B&W Effects which I am finding to be very good. I would love to have a decent A3 printer but will have to sell a lot more prints before that happens Sad

I'm busy working on a couple of jobs I carried out recently but I will upload as soon as possible.

Malcolm

Goggz
Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2012 - 6:58 PM

Well, I'm Goggz. Been on here a while now and I'm not at all serious. I guess I'm here to learn, but most of my guesses are a bit dodgy. Anyway, I've got a leaning towards mono and now I've got a printer that will do the biz without a colour cast, so I should be churning stuff out, but haven't yet...

Shooting on a Nikon, and processing in Lightroom 4 with occasional use of Silver & Colour Efex Pro, I guess most people would view my work as quirky. I like landscapes, people, birds, macro and will shoot anything that moves and a lot that doesn't. I think I'm leaning towards abstract as well...

Cheers!

chavender
chavender e2 Member 3216 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2012 - 4:53 PM

Thanks to all for the support so far and for the detailed information on workflows etc.
In a very short time we already have a wealth of information in one place plus some really good honest critique.

Bill

andy_AHG
andy_AHG  5106 forum posts United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2012 - 3:40 PM

Hi Folks,

My name is Andy Hemingway. I work as a graphic designer and in the past have also worked on product, corporate and wedding photography. However, landscape is my thing and I am particularly drawn to locations that reflect my keen interest in history, legend and folklore. I'm a sucker for a good story! As I live in South Yorkshire, I tend to mostly shoot around the Peak District and southern Pennines.

I've loved black & white photography for many a year, since I was at art college in the 80s and used to stride forth with my old Fujica STX1, loaded with Ilford HP5. These days of course, I shoot entirely digitally with a Nikon D200 and mostly wide angle, using a Sigma 10-20mm lens. I don't tend to upload a great deal of my black & white work, as it doesn't seem to go down too well on EPZ. I hope that this group will give me more of a reason to change my view on that.

My processing methods usually include a bit of exposure blending in PS CS3, converting to B&W via the Black & White adjustment menu and using layer masks to adjust and enhance as I go. I don't use Lightroom, Aperture, HDR or any of the other applications as I've found the photoshop performs perfectly for what I want to achieve.

Cheers,

Andy

psiman
psiman  10551 forum posts Wales
19 Jul 2012 - 3:37 PM

Hi I'm Simon,

Great idea this group, I'm A keen mono worker. Been an EPZ'r for too long after getting back into photography in 2004 after buying a Canon 300D.
Now using a 40D with LR4.1 and CS5 converting images mainly via the B&W Adjustment Layer in CS5 or Silver Efex Pro 2.
Print using an Epson R2880 (great in the Advanced Black & white mode) with Epson inks and Permajet or Fotospeed papers.
Gained my LRPS in 2009 with a mono panel and had a mono print accepted into this year's RPS's 155th International Print Exhibition (which was nice)

Looking forward to participating in this group

Cheers

Simon

TanyaH
TanyaH Critique Team 11591 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom50 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2012 - 3:25 PM

Okay, I'm a bit late to the party but didn't log in yesterday so hadn't realised the ball had been set rolling!

Anyway ... I've dabbled in photography for years and have recently got back my enthusiasm for photography after a long 'creative wasteland' period. I've recently enrolled on a short photography course that starts in September which will force me to get out and about, challenge myself and stop being an armchair-photographer Tongue I've also recently got back into this site, and am still trying to get to grips with all the new features that are available to users. I don't always have a lot of time, so I'm not a prolific image-maker, but I do try to go with the notion of 'quality over quantity'.

I've done a bit of my own B&W processing/printing in a darkroom (read 'cupboard with enlarger and safelight'!) and have even tried Agfa Dia Direct B&W slide film (12 ISO!!!)
I currently use a Canon 40D with a range of lens lengths - some zoom, a couple of primes and a couple of L versions.
I use Adobe PS7 at home, and have access to Adobe CS5 at work.
The course I've enrolled on uses Adobe Lightroom (but whether that's v3 or v4, I don't yet know)

I don't have a preferred conversion method (it would be nice to cultivate one though!) and want to learn to be less heavy-handed with my technique and master finesse in producing good mono images. I still love colour photography, but for me mono is something which is in a different league altogether.

Oh, and somewhere I've still got a handy little gadget from my film camera days which is kind of like an eye-cup with a stick to hold it by, which 'converts' the scene you're looking at into tones instead of colours, so you can get an idea of what it would look like in mono - ah, those were the days! Mind you, with digital cameras I suppose it's just as easy to get an idea of what something will look like in B&W by using one of the in-built picture styles ... Grin

User_Removed
19 Jul 2012 - 11:03 AM

Hi.

Lefty here.

Most of my printing is mono using an Epson R3000 which does produce good results.

Normal workflow for mono tends to be:

Raw capture (Nikon D800 although most of those I will post at this stage are likely to be from the D3s).
Import to Lightroom 4.1
Kill default sharpening
From within Lightroom, convert to mono using Nik Silver Efex Pro2
Save resultant Tiff in Lightroom and do any cropping, sharpening, etc., that might be necessary
Print from Lightroom using the Epson "Advanced B&W Photo" profile (which I find better than using paper-based profiles irrespective of which paper I am using). Normally use Fotospeed Platinum Baryta for mono prints.

If I want to do anything more "fancy", such as a 3- or 5- exposure HDR in Nik HDR Efex Pro, then I will do that before converting to mono.

.

capto
capto e2 Member 21247 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2012 - 12:01 AM

Hi
I'm Ivor a retired litho printer. I have had an on off love affair with photography since the 50's. The digital age has relighted the affair and I enjoy it more than ever. I hope to use this group to further my knowledge and appreciation of mono. If the years have taught me anything, it is to learn from others but not make the mistake of wildly producing work hoping to please others. If you are genuinely happy with an image you have pleased the most important person, yourself.
I am using canon 550d and 600d with a lenses covering 15-300mm. My processing is with CS5.

puertouk
puertouk  31080 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2012 - 11:47 PM

Hi everyone,
I must admit I do not do a lot of mono work, but would like to certainly do some more. I live out on the beautiful sunny Island of Tenerife, where I run Tenerife Photography Holidays. I have a Canon 5D MKII camera and a Nikon D5000 as a backup. I use Photoshop CS6, Lightroom 4.1, Kolor Autopano Giga panorama software, plus Nik Colour EFX pro 4, Nik Silver EFX Pro 2, Athentec Perfectly Clear, Topaz Labs package plug-ins. I think I must have everything except the kitchen sink! I look forward to hopefully seeing some great mono images and hopefully get a little more feedback than you get in the normal gallery.
Stephen

bigalguitarpicker

I'm Alex, a retired chef and has-been musician. I returned to photography about 10 years ago when I bought my first half decent digital camera. When I first took up photography %*&%! years ago, everything was mono, or it was for me, buying film and Magicube X flashbulbs out of my pocket money! Made contact prints in the school camera club darkroom. I now have a Fuji S3 Pro with an assortment of lenses and I also have a Seagull medium format camera. I use CS5 Extended which I bought as a (Very) mature student and I use Photomatix for HDR. For Panoramic shots I use Microsoft ICE. I'm using a home-made PC, Intel Quad Core 3Ghz with 8 GB RAM and if I'm printing I use an Epson Photo 1400 A3+ printer.

Niknut
Niknut e2 Member 4660 forum postsNiknut vcard United Kingdom63 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2012 - 8:27 PM

Hi Bill

Look forward to seeing some really high-class stuff from this group........

I shoot all my work in RAW (but with my clothes on !)....then process everything in PSE 8....!!

Cheers...Keith.

gjfereday
gjfereday  246 forum posts United Kingdom
18 Jul 2012 - 6:46 PM

Hi i'm Graham and i'm totally new to photography and this website but I have learnt so much over the last few weeks. I enjoy a wide spectrum of photography. Currently I live by the sea and have some great landscapes, boats, fisherman huts and industrial landscapes overlooking the sea to shoot if it ever stops raining. I like the idea of the sea looking dark and moody in a mono shot. i have taken one which I have uploaded to my portfolio but I'd love to learn more about this.

At the moment i've only got Elements 10 for processing plus a trial copy of Oloneo.

Graham

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 104030 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2012 - 6:11 PM

and I'm Jeff

what you might call an amateur photographer, the bulk of photography stems from my many and varied travels around the world, but will point and shoot at anything Smile ...... have dabbled around with mono for a while but now that I have Lightroom 4, I am beginning to see the nuances and the effect that the colour spectrum has on B&W shots.

I own a Nikon D60 which has served me well for a couple of years. I now tend to do most of my `adjustments' in LR, but also use Picasa and occasionally `pixlr' and `viewnx'.

I'll be looking forward to developing new ideas and techniques

Jef

sherlob
sherlob e2 Member 82346 forum postssherlob vcard United Kingdom125 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2012 - 5:39 PM

Hi Bill,

I'm Adam, and this is my first group. I'm a serious enthusiast, but naught more. In recent years I have been experimenting more and more with mono - and find myself now not just looking at an exposure and thinking "yeah that would look good in mono", but rather trying to think more at the time of exposure "Right, this has mono potential - how can I maximise it". I am lucky enough to own a Canon 5D Mk11, LR3, and PS CS5.5. I also dabble with Silver Effex Pro 2.

I'm currently studying for a part time higher degree (as well as working full time). This is leaving less and less time for photography and EPZ, but I'll drop by when I can.

Regards,

Adam

Jestertheclown
18 Jul 2012 - 5:38 PM

Looks as if I'm next then!
I'm something of a newcomer to mono. It's something that I've tried, on and off, over the years but I've never made a serious effort to master any of the techniques.
Hopefully, that might, to some extent, be rectified by coming here.
My favourite method of conversion, at the moment, is to use Lightroom, 3.6 in my case.
I've also got Photoshop CS6, which is armed with 'Virtual Photographer.'

Bren.

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18 Jul 2012 - 5:07 PM

Hi All,
As creator of this group I thought I had better start.

I have been dabbling in mono for more years that I will admit to and currently use a Nikon D5000 plus a few lenses.
For mono conversion I have available
Lightroom 4.1 which I find does most of what I need.
SilverEffex pro 2.
Elements 9 for when I need to use layers etc (very rarely).

I am hoping to participate and learn from other like minded enthusiasts.

Bill

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