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Another from the shoot. Thanks to all for the comments on yesterday's. I've tried to bear them in mind (especially Ketch's!), so I'm hoping this one conveys more of that pensive mood I was going for....Inclusion of more of the piano on the left (which would have been ideal) was not an option unfortunately as there was not enough room with the 70-200 lens. A wider lens didn't get the isolation I wanted from the background well enough...

Anyway, critique away!

Cheers,
Geraint

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 40D
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:18 Aug 2010 - 5:37 PM
Focal Length:70mm (35mm equivalent: 440.8mm)
Aperture:f/2.8
Shutter Speed:1/125sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:1600
Exposure Mode:Manual
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:Rhian II
Username:Geraint Geraint
Uploaded:20 Aug 2010 - 12:17 PM

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Nikon_Tog
Nikon_Tog e2 Member 6105 forum postsNikon_Tog vcard England
20 Aug 2010 - 12:26 PM

I agree this one conveys more of the pensive mood. Also agree that not cropping the piano would have been ideal. If I was to be super critical pehaps her left eye is a little dark.

Also I might have cloned out the lines running down the background.

Might not sound like it but I do like this version.

Barry.

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SteveCharles
20 Aug 2010 - 1:02 PM

Nice mono, like the tonality. What's your b&w method, out of interest?

It's a nice, contained composition.

Don't like: Lines (pipes?) in background right next to her face. Dark left eye.

I think the shirt, cross legged pose and look make her look like a child/teen - the previous one was more sophisticated.

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ketch
ketch e2 Member 7770 forum postsketch vcard Turks and Caicos Islands50 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2010 - 1:28 PM

Ahh the Gingham shirt and just a hint of passion too - still that wistful look that she does so very well but at least this time we are not being treated to the full up the nose shot.

Ok I think this is a rather better shot than before - I like the sub-concious reference to the bridge over the river Kwai and I also like that fact that as an subliminal advert for Guinness its excellent (nice link with black and white piano keys).

Technically - I think good separation from the background - the natural light is just enough although from the left eye back we are struggling a little to find detail perhaps. Yep a thumbs up from me - so what more do you want?

Comments about the pipework are a little picky I think - but fair it does sort of split the image in two maybe. I was going to make a comment about the photograph on the wall - only the photographer is not a member of the 'Tell It Like It Is Group' so had better not!!!

Cheers

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knackeredoldman
knackeredoldman e2 Member 5120 forum postsknackeredoldman vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2010 - 1:30 PM

Hi Geraint,

Cropping the piano is not a problem for me but I would try to 'fix' the pipes. Do you know any good plumbers?

I think the cropped pics / mirror in the BG are okay too because with one on each side they seem to balance each other out.

This outfit / pose combo seems more flattering to her too.

Good stuff sir.

Ade

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SueEley
SueEley e2 Member 8271 forum postsSueEley vcard Wales96 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2010 - 5:20 PM

To me she looks a bit self-satisfied in this one. Seem to be in a minority, though.

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ANGELOJAYSON
ANGELOJAYSON e2 Member 5ANGELOJAYSON vcard Philippines
20 Aug 2010 - 5:29 PM

this one is much more nicer! i love this Smile

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SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64840 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2010 - 6:13 PM

I preferred yesterday's pose and like SueEley I'm not very drawn by her expression. Lovely mono tones though.

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Geraint
Geraint e2 Member 8715 forum postsGeraint vcard Wales34 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2010 - 9:42 PM

Thanks all. I love the divided opinions!

Steve - b&w was done via Nik Software's Silver Efex. I used the setting they have to emulate TMAX Pro, but I reduced the grain to zero.

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brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110598 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
21 Aug 2010 - 10:07 AM

I like this one, can't analyse why, it just has a lovely feel to it. (maybe its a combination of the lighting and the pose?)

Just a thought - I think its stronger with a little cropped off the bottom to lose that stray leg

Last Modified By brian1208 at 21 Aug 2010 - 10:08 AM

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SteveCharles
21 Aug 2010 - 10:30 AM


Quote: Steve - b&w was done via Nik Software's Silver Efex

Damn, thought you might say something like that, that costs money!

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SlowSong e2 Member 64840 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
21 Aug 2010 - 10:43 AM

Nik Silver Efex is brill. I don't use mine half enough. You've made me want to get it out again Geraint.

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ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1015119 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
21 Aug 2010 - 10:52 AM

one of the eyes looks a bit odd

some coving or pipes right next to her head - could you have found a different angle?

nice to see Kawai getting credit where its due Wink)

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