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Quote: Well done Paul. What's in store for us next week then . . . ?
I`ll add it shortly 
Quote: we don't know yet whether we'll be able to apply mods
What if you uploaded to your own portfolio first allowing mods, then add to the challenge, will it work that way.
Quote: What if you uploaded to your own portfolio first allowing mods, then add to the challenge, will it work that way.
Hi Paul,
I trust you're OK.
I see what you're getting at but I think that your idea would only work if you added the image to the challenge in the form of a link.
Another way, would be to use a forum thread for the mods., leaving the larger originals here although that would involve some messing about.
Let's see what those in high places have to say about our request.
It should work, but I personally won't always upload an image to the gallery that I also upload to a group. Just a thought, especially if others also don't upload to the main gallery.
Just tested it and it works, but I can see your point.
I`ve now added a challenge
http://www.ephotozine.com/forums/topic/theme-for-week-of-8th-november---14th-nov...
Quote: Thanks Anne and Bren. I'm new to mods, wouldn't know where to begin! Perhaps I'm a Rocker( and that surely dates me)
Regards to you both,
Jack
Is that Rocker as in rocking chair or a rocker of the Elvis period? I'm close to the first option and definitely in the second category.
Mods are a great way to learn - download the person's image to your machine - hopefully work your magic 
and reupload the modified image.
Quote: Mods are a great way to learn
I'll second that but unfortunately that avenue's only open if you're E2, in other words, a paying member.
As such, we can upload mods. by default.
I've put in a request that non-E2 members be allowed to use the mods. feature within the confines of the group.
Well, the two groups actually, I've requested it for the B/W group as well.
I did get a reply to my original request but I hadn't explained properly what I was asking, so it's had to be represented.
B.
Is there a danger of over complicating things?
I like the idea we have a theme each week, the individual author interprets that theme and puts on an image.
Having been with out internet after a lighting for a day storm and looking at the form with 82 replies I am get a bit confuse with watts purposed.
Quote: I like the idea we have a theme each week, the individual author interprets that theme and puts on an image.
I must admit it was nice and simple!
Tbh I can't understand why people want to change things and am happy with the current approach. However, if the majority (mmm - of active members? - of all members?) and / or the leader wish to change then I'll go along with it.
The idea of modifying other people's work, or for that matter putting up a crtique on it, does not really appeal to me. Unless somebody actually asks for help and I have any advice that I can offer with confidence (rare), then I prefer to see the photo as the person's ideas (and way of looking / seeing) and appreciate it for that. It's that 'difference' that does appeal to me.
If mods / critique are to be introduced I'd prefer them to be optional. Then if people actually want advice then will hopefully get it.......
Pete
It's all about buzz - to keep momentum going, you need interaction. I think the amount of members that have left the group might attest to the fact that people like to comment, and to get comments.
Wrt modifications, if a person doesn't want them. They can opt out, just as they can in the general gallery.
As for complicated, I don't see this.
A weekly theme, a photo created after the theme is announced, comments, and if desired, modifications and critique.
What is the point of just uploading a photo here and not getting feedback and maybe learning something about what might make that image better?
I agreee - the point of participating i. these groups is surely to improve otherwise why bother to compare your work to others at all? I have the same complaint about tge daily challenge threads. No-one says boo or baaa and it has discouraged me from partipating. I like hearing what people do or don't like about a photo even when reading comments on other people's work it is informative and educational.
Whereas I appreciate you are a newcomer to the group, Bugsy, i've always understood that the whole point of this group was not for the purpose of improvement, or comparing images one with another, but to enjoy the challenge, enjoy taking the photos, perhaps have a bit of banter, and joyfully move on to the next challenge. I don't think anyone is really bothered who wins. Whereas i like a comment, it doesn't matter to me whether I get one or not. Many of the groups where comments are made have folded. If one wants a more serious B&W group, there's the excellent mono enthusiasts group. I do hope that we are not suddenly going to change the whole nature of the group.
Let us remember Ken's final remark: have fun.
If there's too much buzz, people might buzz off.
I'm for keeping it simple ie. pretty much the way it's gone on since the group started. Comment if you want - request critique if you want (but don't expect to get it - the critique gallery is the place to go for 'proper' critique if required). I consider this group to be fun - an opportunity to seek out and try subject matter I'd not normally consider more than anything - that's the challenge bit for me.
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