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Only fake women could turn their back to this magnificent view.

Brand:Pentax
Camera:Pentax K-7 Check out PENTAXPORTAL!
Lens:smc PENTAX-DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:4 May 2014 - 8:52 AM
Focal Length:37.5mm
Aperture:f/13.0
Shutter Speed:1/80sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:unorthodox
Username:gkey gkey
Uploaded:8 Jun 2014 - 8:41 AM
Tags:Blue, Landscape / travel
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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 8530 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1094 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2014 - 8:58 AM

I like your brief write-up...

This is the sort of travel photography that I love - the quirky, personal observation. Real life is so wonderfully surreal if we use our eyes. I would dearly love to chance upon a subject like this.

I think your narrative demonstrates the dilemma here though - is this about the waterfront mannequins or about the view? They are competing for attention.

I wonder how many compositions/angles you tried? A lower viewpoint would have placed the island behind the figures, without the expanse of sea. There were a couple of problems here that you faced - the distance between the mannequins, and whether to include whole figures or not. You have approached the first by using a formal view that emphasises the separation between the two, and the second by cutting off at skirt level so that there are no cut-off legs.

My real criticism of this is that I would have waited for the ship to pass. It's just too much in the frame, too many items to look at. It prevents the background from being that, from sitting discreetly back; it draws the eye away from the mannequins.

I would also go for a tighter crop, top and right side. That would keep the eye at the level of the mannequins while still showing the background view, and would get rid of the blob of boat on the right. I would also try to put a bit more light and contrast into the left-hand face. Not a lot, just to give her more presence.

Willie will probably get here in due course to comment on the white balance, which looks cold to me.

Modification to follow shortly.
Moira

Last Modified By mrswoolybill at 8 Jun 2014 - 9:10 AM

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dudler
dudler Critique Team 11164 forum postsdudler vcard England392 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2014 - 12:59 PM

I agree with Moira that a slightly lower viewpoint might have worked well - placing the ship exactly between the mannequins' heads, perhaps. There's a lot of options for formal geometric composition to play with here.

Personally, I like the idea of having the ship there: I'm less keen on the two small vessels at the two edges of the shot, though.

There's a feel of a slight lean in this, as well, though that may be a wonky gate and my eye rather than reality!

My mod rotates the whole lot a degree, crops, and clones out the vessel on the left edge. It clones in space at the bottom: it felt important to keep the billow in the grey skirt fully in the frame.

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gkey
gkey e2 Member 4gkey vcard United Kingdom
8 Jun 2014 - 3:57 PM

Thank you for your comments. I don't like the lower point of view but I do think that cloning out the small ships left and right is a better option.
Gkey

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10988 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2985 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2014 - 10:03 PM

If you learn only one thing from the Critique Gallery, it should be the pitfall of using Auto White Balance, and leaving it the way the camera has decided.

AWB is guesswork, and in MOST cases of good sunlight, it will predictably add a blue tone to decrease the natural warm tone of the existing light. This is a perfect example. The white balance is 5100K, and at that time of the morning, in these conditions, it would measure at least 6000K, - much warmer.

In mod1, its the only change I have made. Contrary to popular belief, correct white balance doesnt just make a shot appear warmer by adding a warm tone; it sets the REFERENCE for ALL colours and tones in the shot, so its impact is much greater; and it affects contrast. So its important. Dont use AWB unless you intend to correct its decision in RAW processing; set it instead to the actual light conditions.

After that I would also consider the ship an unnecessary element as its composed, UNLESS you removed the models and had something complementary in the foreground. Its cearly important to you, so it should stay, but consider the models than as a distraction.

Thats Mod2.


regards



Willie

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