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Ok guys/gals I apologize for the absence football schedules been hectic and have no time at home. But Used the new 2.8 lens out last few games and loving it! Here is I think a great shot, but leave the final verdict up to the experts. I am trying to take in what you al been telling me when I am on the field.

Good brak away on one of the toughest teams in the boy's conference. it was close first half but our boys pulled away to finish on top 42-24. This was a 85yrd run that I captured.

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 550D
Lens:EF70-200mm f/2.8L USM
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:17 Sep 2011 - 11:19 AM
Focal Length:145mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/2.8
Shutter Speed:1/1000sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Title:1 to beat
Username:Paully33 Paully33
Uploaded:18 Sep 2011 - 12:03 AM
Tags:Sports / action
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danh
danh  461 forum posts United Kingdom36 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2011 - 11:43 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

With all due respect to Frank (Focus_Man), keep your settings as they are - shoot wide-open and use the efforts you've made to get a shot like this again.

Simply put, this is a really excellent shot, MADE by your use of f2.8 to blur your background and freeze the action with a really fast shutter speed. Really, really excellent. Sounds a bit weird but I'm proud of you. Very, very well done. You're now going to progress in leaps and bounds and get better and better. Great stuff. Grin

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John_Frid  8514 forum posts United Kingdom56 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2011 - 12:56 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I think you have probably made the right decision to shoot at f2.8, although there is an argument that you could have stopped down 1 stop. Lenses can be slightly off of their best when used at the extremes, so f4 or f4.5 may have been slightly sharper and the loss of shutter speed probably wouldn't have hurt you too much (if at all).

It is worth playing with some variations of shutter speed to find out just how slow you can shoot before things get blurred. This will help you decide when the iso needs to be upped.

This is a pretty good action shot with the subjects isolated, and the runner has room to move into. The wide aperture has blurred the background a little and this certainly helps concentrate the eye.

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CathR  7139 forum posts United Kingdom563 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2011 - 2:17 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Yoah you've really made a big leap forward with your shotsSmile. Good action, good focus and good exposure! On the aperture v shutter priority thing mentioned by Frank, some people favour one and some people favour the other. Neither is foolproof, as with aperture priority you need to make sure your shutter speed is high enough to freeze the action, and with shutter priority you need to watch the aperture if depth of field is an issue. Go with what you are most comfortable with.

It's wonderful when the EPZ community can help a togger like youWink. What makes the difference is that you are keen to improve and willing to listen. That's the Critique Gallery working at its best.

Best wishes

Catherine

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10826 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2829 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2011 - 2:52 PM

What a difference. Nice and sharp at 2.8, - very good isolation from the background. action frozen well.



regards


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Paully33
Paully33  3 United States
18 Sep 2011 - 3:58 PM

Thanks all for the comments getting good shots like this and hearing from all of you is so rewarding. Dan coming from you that means quite a bit and getting compliments from anyone here whether be a proffessional or what means the world to me. I look at it this way every one here is leaps and bounds ahead of me so I will sponge all info to better myself. I just simply love doing this. I just signed up with a workshop with a proffesional photographer to shoot Birds of Prey Holy crap EAGLES! so geeked up about it

Any way want to conticue to strive to be better will I have cfrappy shots yep, probably will and not afraid to admit. I find myself now asking myself what you all may say after I take a shot. I think now my confusion is at 2 issues, 1 where to have my focal point indicator(s) should be dead center or the top one. Seems like whenI follow a wide receiver and they get to the air to catch a pass I can never seem to bring what could make a killer shot in focus. The receiver is usually blurry and either the background is nice a nd clear or I miss alltogether and the players surrounding the receiver "watching" the play unfold are crystal clear. Have not found a technique for that

secondly should I shoot AF Servo or AF Focus. I know that AF Servo is for moving objects but is one really better than the other.

I also saw a few shots from other shooters that when I stand in the back of the endzone and shoot on the center and QB, I think for me personally this is why I want a good wide angle to get that shot.

Got to with a 400mm L series the other day Oh My God that is the freaking mother of all lenses. So cool One day and $8000 I will get one!

Anyway again thanks for the comments I will be posting more, from both of my two son's games I think now I need to focus on consistancy and getting the same quality shot all the time.

Paul

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Jestertheclown
18 Sep 2011 - 10:01 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

You've been paying attention haven't you ! ?
Everything about this shot is good.
As for the aperture, using the lens wide open has achieved what you set out to do, so it's worked.
You might want to try a few shots with it stopped down by one or two and see what happens but be careful not to spoil a winning formula.
Personally, I use AP and shoot RAW as a matter of course and I'm always inclined to err on the side of judgement, opening up a stop more than I might have needed to be sure that I'm happy with the shutter speed. Particularly if I'm aiming at a moving target as you were here.

Bren.

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Paully33
Paully33  3 United States
18 Sep 2011 - 10:25 PM

Thank you, I really do try to pay attention to what you all say. I have more shots that I will be posting, but as of yeterday's game I think out of all the photos I shot this was the best in my own opinion. One day when I can afford that 400mm L series shots like this will be a walk in the park!

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18 Sep 2011 - 11:04 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 


Quote: One day when I can afford that 400mm L series shots like this will be a walk in the park!

Maybe.

Owning an expensive camera/lens/anything won't make you a better photographer. In fact it might well simply magnify all the faults!
You're doing really well as you are. I think nearly everyone in the critique gallery is keeping an eye on you. I have you listed as a favourite so that I know when you've uploaded something and I don't suppose I'm the only one.
When someone is as willing to listen and as keen to learn as you are, we'll all rally round with as much advice and support as you need. It's how the critique gallery's supposed to work and as Catherine says above, in your case, it really is working at its best.
You're becoming happier and much more at ease and more at home with your equipment. That will promote better results far more than owning an expensive lens.
Keep trying and keep trying different settings but never forget the ones, like here, that worked well. Out of necessity, they'll change from day to day and shot to shot but they're always useful as a starting point.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10826 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2829 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2011 - 12:16 AM

Just a quick comment on this lens and the aperture. I own this lens, and its got quite the reputation as anyone who owns one will already know. It is certainly at its finest at 5.6, but it is still razor sharp at 2.8 in the centre, - falling off at the edges to excellent. So its still like many lenses, however the visible difference between 2.8 and 5.6 is barely noticeable, unlike many lenses. (DOF excluded of course)


Review and MTF figures available here: http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/197-canon-ef-70-200mm-f28-usm-l-test-report--r...

Paul, - when you get to want the 400mm, - dont buy the f/5.6 model, though its affordable. The 300mm f/4, or f/4 IS is a superior performer at around the same price. Tack sharp at f/4.



Willie

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Paully33
Paully33  3 United States
19 Sep 2011 - 1:50 AM

Yes I realize that the equipment does not make the photographer. I was just able to use that lens (2.8 400mm IS L) about a week ago and it was freakin amazing! I thought that the lower the Fstop then the better the pic. So now I will experiment around and try different F settings.

I am serious I put everything down in my little note pad and keep it in my camera bag and reference it during the game. I shoot almost every down and look for the play to expand to let myself know shots are coming. More unusefule then keepers I know, but the parents seems to love it as well. And now they also see the difference from picture to picture and that is from the advice and tips I get from you all!

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