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found 6 red roses along the shore of loch lubnaig did'nt want to move them did'nt seem right just took some pics

Camera:Sony Cyber-shot DSC-W55
Lens:Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:2 red roses
Username:fergiejb fergiejb
Uploaded:3 May 2010 - 12:10 AM
Tags:Boulder, Flowers & plants, Landscape / travel, Loch, Night / low light, Overcast, Raining, Red, Rose, Scotland, Stirling, Wildlife / nature
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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8685 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1530 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2010 - 2:30 PM

Hello, James, and welcome to EPZ. An image that tells a story, but keeps the viewer guessing as to why the roses were found on the shore. To be honest, I prefer the composition of your other roses-on-the-shore picture that you did in portrait format. This one has a blue cast and I feel could do with cropping so that the roses are more prominent. You have good detail, and I like the textures of the rocks and shingle. In my modification I cropped, removed the blue cast, adjusted levels, then selectively sharpened and increased the saturation on the roses.
Pamela.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom825 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2010 - 6:39 PM

Well spotted. A bit blue, so needs some warming, but i would have concentrated on just one bloom. Two split the image very much into distinct halves - and 2 is not a good compositional number.

I hope you took a series of shots. When a good chance presents itself, take plenty - i often used half a roll of film on one subject. with digital you take as many as you like free.

paul

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fergiejb
fergiejb  4 Scotland
3 May 2010 - 9:19 PM

thanks for your comments yes paul i have many shots of this scene
there is single bloom shot on my portfolio feel free to have a look
I am new to this so am just starting with adjusting the image but thanks again for comments
james

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rubyblue
rubyblue  4 United Kingdom35 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2010 - 10:22 PM

i agree with paul entirely here 2 not a good number for compositions especialy when b/w with one colour. have uploaded a mod where iv cloned one rose and joined it to the other then cropped portrait for you. adjusted midtone for texture of gravel vignette to rose heads ,,lightened,selected invers and darkened surrounding. ps: with the camera used here i have a feeling the white balance was set to tungston hence the blue cast.
hope you find this helpfull.

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rubyblue  4 United Kingdom35 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2010 - 10:25 PM

forgot to mention i applied orange filter 80% to get a warm cast.

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fergiejb
fergiejb  4 Scotland
3 May 2010 - 10:48 PM

again thanks for the comments

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mhars3619
mhars3619  3 Scotland
4 May 2010 - 6:07 PM

I like this composition and the ajustments made. And as the other said 2 is not a good composition, but every now and again the rules dont count. It is by breaking the rules that new destinations are found. I too am new to photography but I am an artist and it depends on the message you want to send out. the image with the 2 roses send out a message, Do you want the viewer to have to think or react to an image its all to do with the thought behind the work, Looking at it as an artist I would say well done,

Other viewers could take more time to contemplate the significance of each image 1 rose 2 roses and think different thoughts.

Last Modified By mhars3619 at 4 May 2010 - 6:08 PM

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mhars3619  3 Scotland
4 May 2010 - 6:17 PM

Here are a couple of quotes from other artists.

" Throw away the book nobody ever discovered anything new by following whats been tried and tested",

"Genius does what it can talent does what it must"

This next one is what this site is all about,

" Share ideas sometimes others can give new dimension to the idea "

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Last Modified By mhars3619 at 4 May 2010 - 6:19 PM

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rubyblue
rubyblue  4 United Kingdom35 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 6:21 PM

A fellow artist!! nice to meet you, iv been selling my oil paintings for 37 years now and hope you enjoy your trade as much as i do.
the problem here is that this photo has been put in the critique gallery and as such it will get critique following certain rules that apply to photography just as they do to some other art forms. on top of that it will attract critique on its technical merits. i fully agree with your rule breaking attitude to art and if you read my profile i state it clearly there.
ps: i have often had a double portrait to paint and made it work.
nice to meet you.

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