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i have sharpened and desaturated the photo, i have tried a number of different variations and i think this one is the best?

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D3100 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18.0-105.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:21 Jan 2013 - 11:41 AM
Focal Length:38mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.4
Aperture:f/13.0
Shutter Speed:1/640sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:3200
Exposure Mode:Program AE
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Auto
Title:a cold road to nowhere
Username:pjplant pjplant
Uploaded:27 Feb 2013 - 10:28 AM
Tags:Black & white, Landscape / travel
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KurtSkeels
KurtSkeels e2 Member 11967 forum postsKurtSkeels vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 10:31 AM

Super monochrome image. Nice composition and perfect exposure on that snow.

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Hermanus
Hermanus  2 South Africa
27 Feb 2013 - 10:41 AM

This is a superb capture !!

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pjplant
pjplant  5 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2013 - 10:41 AM

hi kurtskeels, thanks for the comment, i am trying to learn photoshop but as i have said in other posts i think it will take me years to learn it properly, i think i have learned a little bit with this photo!
thanks


pete

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richmowil
richmowil e2 Member 5240 forum postsrichmowil vcard England1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 10:52 AM

A Well Composed Nice Image, I like it a lot!!

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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 7395 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom971 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 11:38 AM

I like the way the lane curves out of sight, there's the invitation to move into the frame and explore what happens just round that bend. I'd maybe have moved just a step to the left, as the final curve of the lane is obscured by twigs but maybe you intended that.
I'd really like to see the base of a tree trunk in the bottom left corner, to anchor the composition, but that's personal.
Moira

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4209 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom128 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 11:45 AM

Good picture, well composed and processed. I do like the BW for these mostly colourless winter snow scenes, it creates a sort of chilly atmosphere which you have achieved here.
I feel that this lane image is many steps ahead of your last winter lane.
regards
Ian

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pablophotographer
27 Feb 2013 - 12:02 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi, apologies for being out of line with the previous comments, I fully appreciate your effort in post processing and I applaud your willingness to go out in the cold with the camera. I won't discuss about the settings of the 3100 as they have not affected teh image. I will focus on the actual picture, that is more crucial I believe,

Straight away I see that the picture has got a weight on subject that favours the foreground. Too much. Too many trees are displayed, starting from the left edge (almost) and finishing in the right edge. The depiction and good description of the trees finishes before the middle of the photograph, probably on its 1/3. Beyond that point, just one vivid tree, no more strong shilouettes, which so nicely appear on the first part of depth.

Is the road a" road to knowhere"? I see tyre trails, no car being stopped and the people leaving it... or a car reversing.

What was your main subject? The trees or the road? I think a different orientation (vertical) would have allowed you to clear the foreground a bit (no photoshop! majic!!!) by omitting the first of trees on both sides that seem to suffocate the image. If your main theme was the trees, wouldn't be better to take a deep sit position and shoot all of the trees including the taller (invisible now) branches? If your main there was the road, why not having shot that from about 10 years back, have ore of its straight way in the picture (directing te eye) and giving just a hint of the "nowhere" with the curve, which hides the "what's next?" part. Probably that would allow more trees to be clearly visible instad of being lost in the far, far distance and grey pulp as now.

Kindly, pablophotographer

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Joline
Joline e2 Member 8Joline vcard United States51 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 12:06 PM

This is very lovely. I like the tones that you used and also the composition with the lead in road. This looks very natural, and is not an easy type of image to get right. You have done a fine job.

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pablophotographer

I should have written 10 yeards back, lol. It took me long to write my comment, the previous 3 comments were not there when I started writing it, I have not seen any pictures previously, but if Ian says he sees an improvement, I believe him , he has a good eye.

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pablophotographer

Arrrgh, why didn't I write meters as I initially wanted ? yeah second attempt should say yards...

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leontari
leontari e2 Member 1leontari vcard Greece
27 Feb 2013 - 12:32 PM

I like the angle you have captured the picture.
Effrossini

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2801 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 2:47 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The basics are all there for a good shot.


My opinion and siggestion are more in line with Pablo, and Ive uploaded a couple of mods to show what I mean.

the image has the lane and tracks in the centre of the image, whereas they may be better at the left; cropping into a square format places the lane in a better place, and places more focus on it, rather than trees; the sharpening is overdone on the trees, but there little sharpening visible on the tracks in the snow, so I would increase sharpening in the snow, and decrease in the trees.

The image can look better less bright, - its overexposed a little.

Both mods have these suggested tweaks, the secind is a duo-toned conversion that might work for you.



Hope this helps, or at least shows another point of view that can work.


regards


Willie

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devlin
devlin  4651 forum posts India39 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2013 - 3:01 PM

i like the way this has been proccessed. It sets the mood right Smile, i would have preferred to go for a lower perspective though when taking this..but thats just me Smile

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pjplant
pjplant  5 United Kingdom
27 Feb 2013 - 9:23 PM

hi everyone, thanks for all the comments, its good to get some good feedback and i will also look into the advice i have been given, the lane is a dead end just out of sight of the photo and is then fields and a well used track for ramblers, unfortunately i am not fit enough for the walk, i have to adapt my photography also due to having rheumatiod arthritis throughout my body, i even have it in my jaw but do my upmost to not let it stop me talking.
thanks again everyone


pete

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom843 Constructive Critique Points
28 Feb 2013 - 7:59 AM

Well composed image. If you just desaturated, then this is a reasonable mono shot, but that is far from the best way to create mono. You should use the channel mixer to control how much of the three primary colours are used. The fact that the original will be nearly monotone will help. 3200? Not sure why you went that high. I never go above 400 unless I have a very good reason. Modern gear is good with high ISO, it is even better with low.

Paul

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