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Two versions of the same shot, taken on a walk earlier in the week. I'm not a fan of posting colour and black and white versions of the same shot but, in this case, I can't decide which I prefer. The crop's a little tighter on the black and white, which I think works better but not by enough that I wanted to go back and re-edit the colour version. ![]()
I've added a third version, which is the same as the first but with the mole hills cloned out because they look like cow pats!
I'd like to hear your opinion — all comments and criticism welcome.
Dave.
Tuesday, 16th February, 2010.
21mm, f/11, 1/160s, ISO-200.
| Camera: | Canon EOS 400D |
| Lens: | Canon 17-40mm f/4 L |
| Recording media: | RAW (digital) |
| Title: | A walk in the country |
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| Uploaded: | 18 Feb 2010 - 12:33 PM |
| Tags: | Landscape / travel |
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I really cant decide myself
You shouldnt have put them up together
A superb composition David, wonderful colours and tones in V2, however, the monotone is the winner for me!
Carol
Excellent shot David, and definitely the mono for me, liking the extra contrast (everywhere except the cowpats) and bringing out so much detail in the grass.
Think I probably still prefer the composition from the colour version with the extra space on the left, and the mono maybe a touch too sharp in the fine detail of the trees with the white sparkly effect appearing
Tim
Great shot, like the predominate light tones contrasted with the dark trees of V1, nice use of the frontal light. James
Beautiful scene, well picked out, work in both colour and mono,
fine work, Adrian
Works best in mono for me too, although I usually like the added warmth of the colour.
Helen
3 lovely versions here but I like the color version best Dave,
Geoff.
It's not a "real" photo unless it has a sprinkling of what looks like cow patties!
That said, I prefer the mono over the colour for this one. I like the compo with the fence coming out from the corner, the path leading to the tree, and the placement of the tree within the frame.
Anne
I like V3, the path is more defined leading you to the tree and the molehills ? are gone, the fence is a great lead in too, nicely composed too
Mark
v2 the colour one works best for me. The balance of the composition and colours is just right...
But further to our conversation re: ethics... v3 and the missing mole hills falls in to this area. Cleaning up dust spots and hairs is one thing... but when we start removing things we don't like altogether....
Good pic though, I like it.
Thank you. ![]()
I can certainly see your point about the molehills. In this case, I'm happy cloning them out because I don't think it fundamentally alters the character of the photograph and they're not a permanent feature of the scene: they just happened to be there on the day I photographed it.
In most cases, I'm not too concerned about an exact representation of the scene because my interest is more in conveying the atmosphere of a place and what it feels like to be there. In most cases, I'll not think twice about cloning out something that I could have physically removed from the scene before taking the photograph, such as a piece of litter or a visually prominent stick. Indeed, the reason such a thing would appear in my photograph is that I hadn't noticed it, which proves that it had no impact on what it felt like to be in the place.
On the other hand, I wouldn't clone out a hundred pieces of litter because that would impact on me while I was there.
Although I couldn't physically remove the mole-hills before taking the photograph, I don't think it's misleading to clone them out, as I explained above. Indeed, to play devil's advocate, it may even be misleading to leave them in because they gave people the incorrect impression that cows can be found on this land, whereas, in reality the farmer keeps only sheep in the fields to either side of the path.
On the other hand, I probably wouldn't try to clone out an ugly industrial chimney on the skyline, though doing so wouldn't, to my mind, be any more unethical than deliberately composing with the chimney out of the frame. (And whether that would be ethical depends on, among other things, what the photo is intended for.)
I think it would still be reasonable to take an even broader view, in this case. Although I have provided the map location, the title A walk in the country was quite deliberate and I didn't call it A walk on the path from Carlton Lane to Moor Top Farm. Obviously, that would be far too clunky but it's also because my aim wasn't so much to portray that particular location but the English countryside in general. Not making strong and specific claims about what the photo represents does, I think, give more license for manipulation while remaining ethical.
Hi Dave I would not worry to much about Cow drops/ mole hills, it all adds to the picture but I did think that big white cloud in no mans land to the right was a distraction that leads the eye to quickly out of the shot , when the focus should be on gentle lead in down the track way. I would crop just right of the post and use that post as a frame leaning into the shot, or maybe tone down the brightness of the white cloud. Nice mono version with light and shade on tree, track & Posts.

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