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Had to get something for the challenge so I visited Abbotsbury gardens tonight. They floodlight them for a few weeks in the autumn.
This reflection of the tree & tree ferns was quite spectacular. I'll also upload a picture of the same location just before it went dark, the difference is incredible.
21 secs f10 @200

Camera:Canon EOS 5D
Lens:Canon 17 -40 L
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Abbotsbury gardens
Username:pennyspike pennyspike
Uploaded:22 Oct 2009 - 11:05 PM
Tags:Flash / lighting, General
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Group Event:Critique Buddies October 2009 group - 4
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Diana
Diana e2 Member 82011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
22 Oct 2009 - 11:11 PM

looking good Penny, 21 secs too I'll wait for the 2nd one before the full critique then

Diana

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pennyspike
pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
22 Oct 2009 - 11:20 PM

Second one is only to show that it didn't look good until dark.

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LeeFisher
LeeFisher e2 Member 559 forum postsLeeFisher vcard England8 Constructive Critique Points
22 Oct 2009 - 11:36 PM

great image,
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Diana
Diana e2 Member 82011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
22 Oct 2009 - 11:52 PM

hey nothing looks as good in the daylight Wink

but worth the wait for comparison and crit ...

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mohikan22
mohikan22  102286 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2009 - 12:05 AM

ncie shot indeed.
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mohikan22
mohikan22  102286 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2009 - 12:05 AM

nice shot indeed.
matt.

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mrswoolybill Critique Team 8526 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1091 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2009 - 9:25 AM

I love the surreal effects that floodlights can produce, as shown here.
Moira

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jimthistle73
23 Oct 2009 - 10:42 AM

Wow! What a difference! Surreal looking stuff.

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Diana
Diana e2 Member 82011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2009 - 10:45 AM

see.............. the night time is the very best !!!!!

wheres that category ? cant "they" see the difference from the day to night and how it warrants it

I'll crit later but hey Penny well done for a long expo on trees.. they move and from my experience they go all blurry


Diana

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pennyspike
pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2009 - 11:51 AM

Thanks folks , buddy group was the inspiration to get out & do it. Smile

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DaveMead
DaveMead  5 United Kingdom14 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2009 - 5:40 PM

An excellent image Penny. So beautifully exposed. I reckon this was a hard one to get right and you have done - spot on. Smile
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Roly
Roly  7 Wales
23 Oct 2009 - 9:22 PM

V1 is fantastic.

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Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 1068 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
24 Oct 2009 - 7:29 AM

The lighting is of course very good and your reflection makes the image doubly good.

Dougie

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Diana
Diana e2 Member 82011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
24 Oct 2009 - 5:08 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Well, heres my crit Penny

First well done for sticking to the brief..dark and water ....not always easy to get out at night is it?

I like the composition. The four little palms are quite stealing the show here. You have focussed so well in the dark too, thatís an element that is often over looked in night time work. It is so important to be sharp at night too it shows for sure if youíre not.

The lights already set up here for you really compliment the natural colours of the trees so you didnít have to play with LEDís and gels, though I am sure you could if you had to.

You have demonstrated (with the same shot taken in the day V2) the night time simply brings this alive becoming vivid, colourful, dramatic and dynamic at night ..

I am amazed at how sharp the trees are because many times I have tried to shoot trees at night and never have they stood still enough for me to have anything as effective as these. (maybe cos the floodlights lit this so well you did not have to expose for very long)

There is a tiny bit of movement in them to the right but that does not matter really. I like the complimentary contrast of the softer reflections in the dark water too

I cannot recommend anything to improve this regards the cam settings, Iíd probably have used something similar myself....smaller aperture and the risk of blurred trees increases and then you have to manage the lights as well ..(too large an aperture and the light gets blown in the wrong places and the dark bits remain dark) what I mean is it looks like quite lot of light to juggle with in the darkness so a great challenge for you Penny ..

I think you have it about right for this setting ....

If I have any crit at all ... I would have preferred to see more of the larger tree top but appreciate the limits in space when shooting round water, especially in the dark... donít want you falling in after all Wink

Great shot at night, fab challenge so pleased you joined in and critting your work teaches too

thank you

Diana

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pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
25 Oct 2009 - 11:58 PM

Gosh, Diana, that's a whole lot of words for youSmileWinkWink
Thanks for the detail, It was one of those nigts when just for a while it was perfectly still, I've been waiting for years to get those conditions. Every other year when I've planned to go it's been blowing a gale. Even the slightest breeze destoyed the picture.

I did tone down the tree ferns a bit as the floodligting made them rather a ghastly lurid green, It was OK in reality but the long exposure exaggerated the colour.

I had a bit of fun with some of the other bits & pieces in the gardens, including some additional lightpainting.

Where's everybody else?

PennySmile

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cirrusminor
cirrusminor e2 Member 6380 forum postscirrusminor vcard England3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Oct 2009 - 4:43 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Penny... Im finding it very hard to crit this!

The subject fits the brief and you have used the available lighting to great effect. I too am impressed with the sharpness of the trees. The right weather conditions were vital here as any movement in the trees would have ruined the reflection.

The only change I would make... and this is being really really picky, is clone out the 2 red and 1 blue specks on the right side.
I know they're tiny but you know what its like when you spot something that bugs...lol

Ive noted the settings as I tend to go wider on the f stops (but with rubbish results) lol

Great image Penny Smile

Tim

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pennyspike
pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
26 Oct 2009 - 8:49 PM

Thanks cirrus, I think I must have a dead pixel or two that I hadn't noticed. I was reading a suggestion in the forum about getting rid that might be useful.

As for the exposure I found that once it got really dark f10 & underexposing by 2 stops letting the camera sort it out, worked pretty well. The floodlights were a bit garish in places but made it very fairylandiish. I do go wider if it's something like waves that would turn to milk.

As for your results, I haven't seen a rubbish offering yetSmile

I was really lucky to get such a still night and as there weren't that many people there I was able to put the tripod in the best spot.
Even at 17mm on a full frame camera I couldn't get both the tree & reflection all in.
PennySmile

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cirrusminor e2 Member 6380 forum postscirrusminor vcard England3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Oct 2009 - 11:29 PM

This is how I like to learn Wink

Tried a few different settings on the MNC tonight...
Im pleased to say I was more intune with my camera Wink

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Diana
Diana e2 Member 82011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
26 Oct 2009 - 11:39 PM


Quote: Gosh, Diana, that's a whole lot of words for you

I have my moments Wink Wink Wink



I'm pleased to have been able to crit this (and Tim's too) .....as it makes me think a lot more .....about what I am doing and the conditions for night time shooting..(so different to the day time)

I have had my eye on a tree here in Southwick I have wanted to shoot at night and each time its been windy....one day!


Quote: This is how I like to learn

agree.... it is a really great way to learn Wink

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dianah
dianah  824474 forum posts United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
28 Oct 2009 - 12:20 PM

You have made this image into something quite magical Penny..how wonderful. Thank you for showing us the 'before dark' image too.
Di

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