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Yesterday I made Apple Streusel cake from 'The Hummingbird Bakery Cake Days' book. It was tasty Tongue (Although I may have to make it again. I put the apple slices in the wrong way and ran out of room for all of my slices! Lol!)

I'm trying to improve my food photography, especially since seeing that there's a 'Food Photographer Of The Year 2012' competition just opened up. I harbour no delusions of winning, but would like to have a photo which I am proud of entering into it Grin

Mods are turned ON. For anyone who reads all of this: thank you for reading my essay on these photos! Please let me know what you think, which is your favourite/least favourite, or how to improve the shots!

Right, down to business:

V1
This is my favourite shot of the bunch.
Taken with my Fujifilm Finepix, I tried to include some extra interest in the photo. Using the knife I used to cut the cake didn't work, so I got a fork and a piece of gingham fabric (which just happened to go with my plate Wink).
In photoshop elements 9 I selected the slice of cake, fork and pattern on the plate, inverted the selection and put a slight gaussian blur on it (mainly because my camera seems to take awfully noisy photos, but also because I thought it looked better) Some dodging/burning work to highlights/shadows respectively. I sharpened the image a bit, too, and used the 'reduce colour noise' tool.
Lighting was supplied by our main kitchen light, a small desk lamp and a postcard covered in tin foil which doesn't reflect light in a very satisfactory way (i.e. it reflects in patches rather than equal light all around). I used the 'reflector' on the shadow to the right of the cake.

Title:Apple Streusel Cake
Username:RachelMB RachelMB
Uploaded:30 Aug 2011 - 7:52 PM
Camera:Fujifilm Finepix S8000
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Tags:Apple streusel, Cake, Eat, Food, General, Plate
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ams99
30 Aug 2011 - 9:12 PM
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I would go with V1 as my favourite as well.

Maybe an improvement would be without the fork. Have you tried that? Or maybe slightly less fork and a bit more cake?

In fact, i'm hungry now

Cheers,

Alan

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ams99
30 Aug 2011 - 9:17 PM
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Looking again, i quite like having some kind of object next to the cake. Maybe one of those mini forks would be less of a distraction whilst complementing that beautiful looking streusel.

Can you post some in the UK Wink

Jestertheclown
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30 Aug 2011 - 10:16 PM
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It has to be V1 for me too, so that's the one on which I'll concentrate.
I think that the fork, or something in its place, is necessary but what you need is a proper cake fork. One of those delicate little things with a "blade" along one edge for hacking up the cake.
The background needs to be all gingham, or none at all. A plain background in a neutral colour perhaps. And lose that seam (?) running diagonaly upwards.
The black part of the pattern in the bottom right is a bit overpowering but I think you could lose that simply by cropping some from the bottom. That might help the comopsition too. I don't think that the remaining red bit is too much.
You could remove a little from the top too, leaving you with a square crop. That will place the cake in the centre and although someone will be along in a minute to tell you that you should apply the RoT, it's not really essential.
The edge of the cake where you made your selection isn't quite sharp but you could rectify that easily enough next time.
The noise you mention is still there and as you haven't given us any EXIF or details, I can only assume that it's caused by whatever camera setting you were using.
I've got a Fuji S5700 which is older but similar to yours and that can produce shots like this without noise but I do have to set it up accordingly. Were you using "Auto" perhaps?
I hope that this isn't too critical or off putting. It's certainly not intended to be.
Rather, I hope it helps.

Bren.

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KarenFB
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31 Aug 2011 - 7:50 AM
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Bren has made some brilliant points! I prefer version 1 too. Are you using a tripod? Just a little soft in places. You definitely need to use a bigger slice, the fork has made the cake look quite small! Grin

RachelMB
31 Aug 2011 - 6:00 PM
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Thanks everyone for the helpful critques! I will definately have to try and find a better fork. Mine looks giant compared to the cake! Lol. I'm also on the lookout for pretty 'props' I can use to improve the look of the photos.

I will take all of your suggestions on board, Bren. If I get a chance before the last of the cake gets scoffed up I will try and take a few more shots like these! I used the aperture priority setting to try and control the depth of field, but I do get huge problems with noise. The ISO is on 400, is this the wrong setting for photos? I thought it was only higher ISOs that caused visible noise. The 'seam' is the space between the tiles behind the cake. I kept it in because I thought it made the background more interesting, but now that you point it out I don't really think it adds to the photo at all.

And, no. I did not use a tripod. *Slapped hand* Tongue

Jestertheclown
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31 Aug 2011 - 6:26 PM
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Hi Rachel,
ISO 400 doesn't seem particularly high with regard to producing noise although it does seem a bit high for the taking of this shot.
It depends of course on the aperture and shutter speed you find that you can get way with at lower ISOs.
I sometimes set the ISO on my Fuji to "Auto 400" which allows the camera to select the ISO up to a maximum of 400, above which, some noise becomes apparent and at 800 it's pretty grim.
So, that setting wouldn't cause noise on my camera but if, as you say, noise is a problem for you, then my comparison is probably unjust anyway.
If you're going to try a shot with a much plainer background, I'd suggest lowering the ISO to 200 (100 if you can get away with it) and trying "Programme" mode. That way the ISO will remain constant and the camera will decide upon the shutter speed and aperture. They'll change together, in conjunction with each other as you make your adjustments so it will be up to you to decide where to stop!
There's a little histogram displayed in the viewfinder on mine. In "P" I can use it constantly to adjust the exposure from shot to shot as I take them. I know that going to "P" seems perhaps a retrograde step but it might just help in this case.
Try taking lots of the same shot at different settings and discard the really naff ones later, rather than going for one or two good ones in the first place. Sometimes, the scattergun approach can be the best!
And please kep posting your results here. I'm watching out for you now!
Good luck,

Bren.

Oh, and use a tripod.

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RachelMB
31 Aug 2011 - 9:07 PM
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I will have to have a play with my settings and see what happens with the noise. Thank you so much for helping me Smile

I have now uploaded 'Apple Streusel II', a set of new photos I took today following the advice I have received on these photos. And I used a tripod! I hope you find them to be an improvement Grin

(Unfortunately I took the new photos before I found your latest comment, Bren, so I did 'cheat' and use my boyfriend's camera! I will have a play with mine again and see what I can come up with next time)

banehawi
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31 Aug 2011 - 10:54 PM
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Theres no noise visible in V1, the best of the series, and I do want a slice.

To add to what Bren states, digital noise is LOWEST at the LOWEST ISO. So if you use a tripod, you can just use the lowest ISO. This will cause a longer exposure time, - shorter shutter speed, so to avoid camera shake from pressing the shutter, use the built in timer, press the shutter and stand back. You will get the very best results this way. With a 4 year old camera model, my guess is that anything at or above ISO 400 will produce a load of noise.




regards


Willie

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