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Pin Mill Seagulls, converted to B+W.

Please let me know any comments.

Thanks, Steph

Brand:NIKON
Camera:Nikon Coolpix P500 Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:18 Nov 2012 - 3:40 PM
Focal Length:144mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.4
Aperture:f/5.7
Shutter Speed:1/1500sec
Exposure Comp:-1.3
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:B+W Seagulls
Username:sabery sabery
Uploaded:19 Nov 2012 - 8:03 PM
Tags:Beach, Black & white, Seagull
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senn
senn e2 Member 3senn vcard Belgium1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Nov 2012 - 8:16 PM

great compo and light

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom845 Constructive Critique Points
20 Nov 2012 - 8:28 AM

Compositional, two separate images with each element on an edge. Concentrating on one might be better. Some very strange tones and black lines round the gulls? Actually quite an interesting effect but not natural. Was it intended? May be due to the mono conversionbn, but not sure how it was achieved.

Water texture rather good.

Paul

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41194 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
20 Nov 2012 - 9:36 AM

If this is Pin Mill by the Butt and Oyster, I used to live not far from here!

The lines are interesting, almost looking solarised. Not sure if it's an effect of oversharpening, but it definitely looks like an edge effect.
I'd like a little more space round the gulls, but not as far as making them fit onto thirds, but I think the asymmetry is fine too and being close to the edge still balances.

i'll upload a couple of mods for consideration.

Nick

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
20 Nov 2012 - 10:03 AM

Interesting and simple effect. I have uploaded a mod where I ahve suggested a different composition as presently, I find the bird a little too close to both sides and also the top.

Frank

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
20 Nov 2012 - 9:17 PM

has something i like but there may be too much conflict with two near identical subjects each close to the edge of frame. cant help thinking i wished they were closer together so they could be grouped together both to one side.

the water texture is nice but something went a little wayward in the mono conversion, it looks very gritty and halated. i actually love hard contrasty conversions with deep blacks and white whites but im feeling this is a bit gritty and has the appearance of serious oversharpening.

i think that for it to work well as it is, it needs more space all around top and sides.

great idea, but id play with the original file even croping extending canvas, patching in the water and seeing if one works better than two.

Phil

Last Modified By NEWMANP at 20 Nov 2012 - 9:18 PM

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sabery
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21 Nov 2012 - 11:03 PM

Thanks for the comments all - I love the mods Smile

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