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Some people on Bournemouth beach on a dull day.

I had a chat with someone the other day about photo manipulation and how it's not proper photography. Well, for me it's all about the final image and wether you like it or not. Be it photoshop, filters, the darkroom or none of the above. Either way it's the picture in the frame that you look at, not how you got there.

Title:Beach
Username:MartinWait MartinWait
Uploaded:22 Feb 2004 - 4:45 PM
Tags:Digitally manipulated
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Great work Martin you've acheive a successful image indeed. Worth a click.
Pat

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Mari
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1824 forum posts Wales
22 Feb 2004 - 4:54 PM
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I like the image you've created. Its simple, clean and effective - three people by the sea shore - however you came to that final upload. Gets my click.

Mari

User_Removed
22 Feb 2004 - 5:06 PM
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Yes - I like this - very nice!

amaryllis
22 Feb 2004 - 5:10 PM
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hey Martin...couldn't agree more...we're in the business of image creation.....not just following a set of rules laid down in a previous technology


great image reduced to its bare essentials..

well done and click

phil

noseprints
22 Feb 2004 - 5:12 PM
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simple. effective. i like it.

janehewitt
22 Feb 2004 - 5:12 PM
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Really effective and unusual, I don't suppose you want to share how you did it?? Jane

jambo
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87 forum posts
22 Feb 2004 - 5:21 PM
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very effective, good work...

floubi
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97 forum posts
22 Feb 2004 - 5:27 PM
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I totally agree - why would darkroom manipulation be more "proper" than any other manipulation - the end result is what counts. Lovely shot!

MartinWait
22 Feb 2004 - 5:28 PM
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Thanks for the comments.

Jane:- simple really, using photoshop I opened up the channel mixer, ticked the monochrome box, pushed up the red, green and blue to whiten the shore. Then opened brightness and contrast and pushed up the contrast to darken the figures.
Hope this helps.

Martin.

SuziBlue
22 Feb 2004 - 5:34 PM
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Martin I absolutely love this. Simple, clean, effective, lots of white space!! (fan of ...) The fact that there's not much detail makes the eye create more .. this is fab.

Ten clicks from me!! (if only ..)

naturenut
22 Feb 2004 - 5:40 PM
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I'm the 10th clicker ;o)Wonderful shot.
Margaret.

Hey Martin not sure if Pete gives EC on the weekend but I can smell one coming. Wink

pebbles
22 Feb 2004 - 6:10 PM
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Great idea, very original. Photography is an art they say.

Alethea

deviant
22 Feb 2004 - 6:17 PM
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Really good. Very clean and simple. Love this.

vfr400
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886 forum posts
22 Feb 2004 - 6:18 PM
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Gets my click, simple and effective.
chris

bill j
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47 forum posts
22 Feb 2004 - 6:24 PM
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I like this image,i like it a lot.As for the debate on manipulation,it's everyone to his own,personally i tend to tweak some of my shots if they need it,i have'nt got into serious manipulation yet,and probably never will,but if you've got the skill and the patience to spend a lot of time on your computer,well if you enjoy it why not.

MartinWait
22 Feb 2004 - 6:51 PM
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WOW! Thanks to you all for the comments. Breaking the ten click mark has given me a real buzz.
Cheers.

Martin.

gibbsy
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403 forum posts Wales
22 Feb 2004 - 7:09 PM
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If you wish to use digital manipulation on your shots, then that is up to you. You don't have to please anyone other than yourself. If you then please others that is a real bonus. As for this image, I really like it, it is quite striking and I'm not surprised by the interest it is generating. So I'll give it click no 16.

Brilliant, push the bounderies. (*:*)

SuziBlue
22 Feb 2004 - 8:02 PM
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Back again! (Love this image.) And well done on the EC!

richshep
22 Feb 2004 - 8:10 PM
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It doesn't matter if the image is manipulated if the final image has a kind of truth. Photoshop etc isn't a magic wand - It requires skill and imagination to get results. Well done!

Great image, well done on the EC.

MartinWait
22 Feb 2004 - 8:44 PM
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WOW! and WOW! again. I've got an EC award!

Can't thank you enough for the interest, I'm well pleased you all like it.

a11sus
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568 forum posts Northern Ireland
22 Feb 2004 - 9:37 PM
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Frodo,

Well done - this is a great image - one that many of us would be proud of.

SUSAN

flossie
22 Feb 2004 - 9:40 PM
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Martin this is fantastic, my imagination is going into overdrive now with all the possibilities using this effect (and thanks for sharing) Well done on the award, one of the most striking pictures I've seen for a while. I agree with you about the digital manipulation, the final picture speaks for itself I think.

notabimbo
22 Feb 2004 - 9:41 PM
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Congrats on the EC.....well deserved .

sut68
sut68 (e2 Member)
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1965 forum postssut68 vcard England75 Constructive Critique Points
22 Feb 2004 - 10:20 PM
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Great image Martin - well done on the EC.

As for those people out there who question the validity of Photo manipulation and/or retouching - I would say that the whole process of photography be it digital or 'traditional' is to have a 'hands on' approach to create a specific style of image.

Digital retouching/manipulation is purely an extension to 'traditional' dark room techniques, where the 'traditional' photographer had full control over how an image was to appear through varying processing and printing techniques, be it colour or b&w - this image reminds me very much of a b&w litho print - another acceptable and 'traditional' technique.

I'll climb down from my soap box now, keep up the good work!!
Paul.

noseprints
22 Feb 2004 - 11:39 PM
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congrats! saw it coming.

brian13
22 Feb 2004 - 11:47 PM
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Matchstick Men!! Great image. Well done and congrats.
Brian.
I agree with Paul. Technology now allows us to create images that have been with us for many years. Traditional or digital, may we never stop experimenting.
21.

billma
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119 forum posts United States
23 Feb 2004 - 3:10 AM
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Wow!

AlanTW
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329 forum posts Syrian Arab Republic
23 Feb 2004 - 8:37 AM
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Faultless!

ericfaragh
23 Feb 2004 - 10:22 AM
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Well done on the EC Martin. Simple and great impact. Smile

a2jlp
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165 forum posts Scotland
23 Feb 2004 - 12:55 PM
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Either way it's the picture in the frame that you look at, not how you got there.

My sentiments exactly. Well done on the award.

A classic high-key image.

John

tigertot
23 Feb 2004 - 1:22 PM
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Ditto the above John! Very nice and well done on the award.

Deserved indeed!!!! One of the better DM images i have seen...great colour contrast and imagination in the image!!!

autumnsky
24 Feb 2004 - 4:34 AM
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Very nice Martin... I like this a lot. Thanks for sharing your process.

aworan
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145 forum posts
24 Feb 2004 - 8:23 PM
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I had to really scroll down to make this comment. Theres nothing i can say that hasnt already been said. Lovely. Congrats on the award, and looking forward to seeing more outstanding work.

elliott_more
24 Feb 2004 - 11:27 PM
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Yeah congrats on your first award. Strong image. Thanks for your post on my pic!

Regards

leead
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71 forum posts
25 Feb 2004 - 12:37 AM
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One of the best images I have had the pleasure to view.

janehewitt
25 Feb 2004 - 4:43 PM
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Thanks for the advice, I'm going to have a go - your picture is a real inspiration Jane

patri
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Italy
29 Feb 2004 - 9:51 PM
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Another great, super, fab picture, keep on doing them for our pleasure. Patrizia

billyji
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United Kingdom
1 Mar 2004 - 10:09 AM
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Great image

bandidos
1 Mar 2004 - 2:57 PM
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To any one whos interested, a photographic artist by the name of Marcus Davies produces works of this nature by conventional methords. Check him out! Great Image!!!

interesting imagary

trahern
5 Mar 2004 - 4:16 PM
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I really like this series and am curious as to it was achieved. You may have said but if not perhaps you could let us know the technique?

alfpics
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331 forum posts England
8 Mar 2004 - 11:31 PM
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Haven't had time to look through images lately, so a few days late with the comments - this is excellent, Martin - well done on the EC
Andy

Skinz
Skinz (e2 Member)
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11 Mar 2004 - 6:53 PM
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Either way it's the picture in the frame that you look at, not how you got there.

I agree and this is a super image that I would like on my wall. Congrats on the EC.

Rich

jblackburn
30 Mar 2004 - 1:53 PM
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Well I guess this was and is a very popular image. I really like it too. I guess you have used the contrast bar cranked up to give little detail but plenty of atmosphere. Very nice and it could be hung on a wall I recon.

BrianM
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United Kingdom
10 Apr 2004 - 8:52 AM
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Images can (not quite as easily) be manipulated in the darkroom so I see no problem. When an image is totally "created" then it's not a photograph but until you get to that point it fits the bill as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, to the point, an excellent image, simple but effective. Congratulations on the EC, well deserved.

jonny86
13 Apr 2004 - 5:17 PM
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superb shot!!!! excellent, well done

Had to add my click to this one! I LOVE the graphical feel to it..
Liam =]

alzeepark
17 Apr 2004 - 2:21 PM
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Simplicity and stunning.
Click from me.
Alan

katomy
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Hungary
26 Apr 2004 - 7:56 PM
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Excellent work!
Regards

lovelylindax
16 May 2004 - 10:16 PM
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Wow I really love this one! x

debbiehardy
29 May 2004 - 10:47 AM
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Love this one, too!

clarkycat
31 Jul 2004 - 3:51 PM
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Sorry! Not seen this before and I love it. Agree about the final image thingy too.

Aidan

Hi Martin. I am very interested on how you got this effect. Any chance of dropping me an email?

Regards

Al.

amulrooney@gmail.com

please? Wink

proz
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205 forum posts United States
28 Sep 2004 - 6:09 PM
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To save myself from carpal tunnel I'm going to do an all inclusive
re: your portfolio....
Dude your work is top notch, I love your style everything is well done!

ellavr
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66 forum posts
28 Sep 2004 - 7:21 PM
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Cant believe I haven't seen this before. Just a truly fantastic image. Sorry to be so late with a great big CLICK

Ella

MartinWait
30 Sep 2004 - 8:08 PM
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Cheers.

Al - 9th comment down should get you started.

Martin.

MikeCh
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13 Oct 2004 - 9:08 PM
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I like what you said in your statement. Its the final image that counts not how you got there. Some people consider Photoshop as a easy way of correcting photographic mistakes however to truly know photoshop is an art on its own. I've been a graphic designer for 7 yeas working with magazines, advertising, marketing companies etc. Now I have been working as a photographer for few years and with digital cameras being so accessible photoshop became a great tool and extension of photography weather we like it or not. Its like saying that digital photography is not really true photography cos you can see what you shot right a way therefore you can correct our mistakes more effectively. On top of it all every image that we see in magazines on packages, posters etc made its way through photoshop I think its time to accept it.

Cheers!!
Mike

MartinWait
13 Oct 2004 - 9:10 PM
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Cheers Mike.
Well said!.

mucharska
mucharska (e2 Member)
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13 Oct 2004 - 9:38 PM
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congrats!
Great image.

Mariola

megamuff8
megamuff8 (e2 Member)
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92 forum postsmegamuff8 vcard United States
17 Oct 2004 - 4:19 AM
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I really like the manipulation, Well Done & Congrats on the EC-all of your photos are awe-inspiring!
Click to ya,
Suzan Smile

Coza
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23 Oct 2004 - 4:57 PM
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Amazing pic.

Coza

Hi Love yourportfolio. do you do talks for camera clubs? looking for next season

love di xx

ellavr
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66 forum posts
8 Jan 2005 - 3:16 PM
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I just saw this again, and thought that I would tell you that this is one of my all time favourite iamges. It is so simple and so evocative. Amazing.

Ella

MartinWait
20 Jan 2005 - 12:50 PM
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Thanks all.

Ella, that's made my day. Cheers.

I have to second Ella on her sentiments. Debbie.

MartinWait
1 May 2005 - 11:34 AM
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Thanks.

Martin.

chrisfroud
16 May 2005 - 9:19 AM
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Wonderful - powerful, yet simple image. I'm a great fan of such pictures and I think its irrelevant or what camera or technique you use to get there.

Chris.

MartinWait
16 May 2005 - 9:33 AM
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Thanks Chris.

Coleslaw
Coleslaw (e2 Member)
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13294 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jul 2005 - 11:48 AM
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Love all ur works here, just wonderful!

Cole

Pete
Pete (ePHOTOzine Staff)
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18226 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England95 Constructive Critique Points
8 Oct 2005 - 9:05 AM
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Martin, would you be kind enough to submit this picture for the book please?

Great photo - like the manipulation!

MartinWait
9 Oct 2005 - 10:18 AM
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Cheers.

Pete - Bloody lost the disc that it was on - gutted!

Martin.

MartinWait
9 Oct 2005 - 11:54 AM
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Pete - found the original and have reworked it.

Big_T
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58 forum posts United Kingdom
26 Mar 2006 - 1:43 PM
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How true your words are. striking simplicity

Jay44
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1442 forum posts Wales
28 Mar 2006 - 2:26 AM
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That is a marvelous pic!

I've posted something similar myself today which I got totally by accident.

Your portfolio is fantastic! Adding you to my fave photographers!

And I love your user name! Smile

lynsfiona
24 Jun 2006 - 10:28 AM
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Wonderful high key shot! I'm sure it's all been said before but I haven't got all weekend to read all your fantastic comments.LOL. Lyns x

Platchet
1 Jan 2007 - 8:20 PM
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Very nice image, simple but brilliant!
like your work.

Cheers.

Martin.

Mavis
Mavis (e2 Member)
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143 forum postsMavis vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2007 - 8:44 AM
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You have some amazing work that just stops you in your tracks. Like this one . Simple but fantastic . Deserves all the accolades it gets xxxx

irone
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21 Jul 2007 - 3:20 AM
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awesome ..

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