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I'm really not sure about this one, I'm uploading it for your comments really, to establish what it is I can't put my finger on...

Its probably the positioning of the groyne but there was no other place to get this shot from and I wanted to keep the beach huts in the shot to the left. Processed in SEP 2 with a solenium tint.

V2 the original prior to processing and conversion

Thanks to all those that clicked and commented on yesterdays upload.

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 500D
Lens:Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:16 Jan 2013 - 12:44 PM
Focal Length:22mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.7
Aperture:f/11.0
Shutter Speed:6sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
Title:Beside the seaside
Username:marktc marktc
Uploaded:30 Jan 2013 - 5:56 AM
Tags:Landscape / travel, Seascape
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Hermanus
Hermanus e2 Member 2Hermanus vcard South Africa
30 Jan 2013 - 5:11 AM

I normally prefer colour but here I must go with V1 Mark ! Excellent photo !!

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nonur
nonur e2 Member 6nonur vcard Turkey8 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 6:09 AM

Great mono, so V1 gets the vote.

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 8147 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece18 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 6:13 AM

The fact that the groyne is almost in the centre of the image may be what you are not sure about, Mark, but it works very well, drawing the eye across the water to the horizon, I like it very much Smile Carol

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almiles
almiles  538 forum posts United Kingdom102 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 6:23 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The mono has much more impact and is a well seen conversion; the sky certainly shows up better as do the beach huts though the latter are still subtle because the groin leads away from them. I agree with Carol it may be the placement of the groin that nags at you. Difficult to see how you could have had it positioned more off-centre once you chose to retain the beach huts, if you moved to have it coming out from a corner it would be more of a barrier than a lead in. Maybe you don't need the beach huts at all. Square cropping to left corner the groin gives a different feel to the image and lets the groin lead out to the post in the water and focuses on the textures in the wood. Not sure it's a better image, just different Smile

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leontari
leontari e2 Member 2leontari vcard Greece
30 Jan 2013 - 6:32 AM

V1 is a great one, so gets my vote
Effrossini

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Andysnapper
Andysnapper e2 Member 6108 forum postsAndysnapper vcard England22 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 6:42 AM

Mmm, I like this, mainly. I think the groyne and the land are fine but the sea and clouds don't look quite right. Too smooth possibly, like an ageing supermodel whos had too much botox.....

I also think that Carol and Al are correct about the groyne placement, centre doesn't quite work on this one, but I think the beach huts add to the image so a square crop would lose them.

Your only option is to go back and move either the beach huts or the groyne.....Grin

Sorry not much help really.

Andy

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jasonrwl
jasonrwl e2 Member 4261 forum postsjasonrwl vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 7:00 AM

Nice conversion Mark and, yes, I think you have it concerning the position of the groyne but I still think it is an interesting image
Jason

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AnnChown
AnnChown e2 Member 5192 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 8:09 AM

Sometimes we can't get the shot we want and it can be really frustrating as we have an idea in our head. I think this has probably happened here Mark. Happens to me all the time! I think if it as the one that got away! Smile love the processing tho!
Ann

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charlotte
charlotte e2 Member 1034 forum postscharlotte vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 8:25 AM

The conversion picks out the drama in the sky and water. Nice one Mark.

Charlotte

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fificat100
fificat100 e2 Member 3fificat100 vcard Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 8:43 AM

I like this - and V1 works best for me.

Lavina

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Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 431 forum postsIrishkate vcard United Kingdom76 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 11:11 AM

The mono conversion looks so much better than the colour.
Think I'd crop off the right handside up to end of groyne which leaves a nice triangle including your beach huts.
KateGrinGrinGrin

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41123 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England137 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 12:36 PM

Think you should allow for 'mods' when eliciting ideas, Mark. The manipulation brings out some good sky detail and textures. I would be tempted to crop the right side to near the end of the groyne and crop the sky to maintain the landscape proportions. The groyne initially leads away from your beach huts but the shore line brings you back across the image to them.

Dave

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jdinne
jdinne  11 England
30 Jan 2013 - 12:49 PM

V1 Mark excellent.

John

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taggart
taggart e2 Member 1042 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 2:31 PM

I find v1 heavy and forboding----the color is very appealing-- interesting comments above, so do not be offended by the PA view point???

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Fefe
Fefe e2 Member 3Fefe vcard United Kingdom30 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 5:37 PM

I really love the processing!................ I think a crop as Kate says to make one image..........and crop from the other side losing the beach huts to make another image........... great work thoughGrin
Diane

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zapar40
zapar40  466 forum posts Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 5:46 PM

nice processing, Mark. i like the idea from Andy, if only we could move the huts and groin, i'd be moving lots of large rocks.Smile
ant.

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41123 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England137 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 5:52 PM

Mod uploaded, Mark. This is what I had in mind.

Dave

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gajewski
gajewski e2 Member 10gajewski vcard United States9 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 6:13 PM

I like both shots and I had similar thoughts to those already posted -- about the placement of the groyne. Dave's mod is quite nice. I see he moved the groyne to the right.
In your shot, I am very impressed with your B&W conversion, although I agree with Jenn that the color version is also very appealing. It's interesting how a B&W conversion can completely change the mood.
-=\Walter

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netta1234
netta1234 e2 Member 2215 forum postsnetta1234 vcard Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 7:04 PM

A great setSmile
NettaSmile

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Big_Beavis
Big_Beavis e2 Member 9Big_Beavis vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2013 - 11:24 PM

Truly amazing Mark.

David

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chensuriashi
chensuriashi e2 Member 8160 forum postschensuriashi vcard England17 Constructive Critique Points
3 Feb 2013 - 6:35 PM

I was at Hill Head in September and grew up there...Thanks for the memory again and great shooting of my home patch...Wink Chen.

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