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This is from a year ago now . Again looking for images for club competitions coming up soon . This is for a monochrome print competition . Previously uploaded in colour with some lovely purple heather so it loses that but I think the sky is better . Thanks for help with my last upload and Tuscany . Thanks also for recent clicks and comments .All very much appreciated...Phil

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D300 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18-70
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:2 Aug 2010 - 3:05 PM
Focal Length:12mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.4
Aperture:f/25.0
Shutter Speed:1/13sec
Exposure Comp:-2/3
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Flash:No Flash
Title:Buachaille Etive Mor
Username:phil99 phil99
Uploaded:29 Sep 2011 - 11:03 AM
Tags:Buachaille Etive Mor, Glencoe, Landscape / travel, Mountains, Scotland, Waterfall.
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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England207 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 11:08 AM

Prefer the composition in V1 and the mono converion works well with it.
Regards Richard

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4137 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland110 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 11:08 AM

Looks good in the B and W presentation: losing the colour of the heather is a minus of course, but other factors make up, eg. the contrast between the shadowed Buachaille and the bright sky behind.
As there is a good range of tones and contrasts, the B and W version does work well, and as you say, the sky is often better.
Ronnie.

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gingerdelight
29 Sep 2011 - 11:33 AM

Beautifully captured images Phil, all wonderful but for me it has to be V3 - it is stunning!
Carol

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Suehh
Suehh e2 Member 739 forum postsSuehh vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 11:35 AM

V1 looks good to me

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece16 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 11:38 AM

V.3 for me, Phil, a beautiful composition and presentation. Carol

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41021 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England132 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 12:09 PM

v3 for me, or maybe v2... but then again... they're all pretty damn good shots.

Dave

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cassiecat
cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 12:14 PM

colour for me, and the wider angle shot of v3 for me.lesley

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LesF
LesF  7175 forum posts8 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 12:17 PM

Get it printed and entered Phil


LesF

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NeilWigan
NeilWigan e2 Member 4NeilWigan vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 12:17 PM

V1 is more dramatic but i like the colour of v3today .

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lonely_oryx
lonely_oryx e2 Member 661 forum postslonely_oryx vcard England54 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 12:27 PM

Works well as a mono

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acousticmist
29 Sep 2011 - 2:10 PM

Three excellent captures Phil, love them all..............Martin

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LynneJoyce
LynneJoyce e2 Member 6LynneJoyce vcard United Kingdom97 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 2:33 PM

V3 for me too.

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danbrann
danbrann e2 Member 9470 forum postsdanbrann vcard 15 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 2:48 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Yes most people including me like the colour of v3 best but what you are really after is comment on your mono. I think this is fine and any club judge would have difficulty in finding fault with it however we don't know what else is in the competition so we cannot guarantee the result. The small area I would look to improve on is the high light area in the water. I know that is what water looks like but it just takes my attention perhaps slightly too much.

If it were mine Phil I would have no hesitation in entering it on the other hand if I had to choose between colour and mono I would go for colour.
In our club if we enter a black and white image we are not allowed at any time to enter the colour version.
good luck.
Danny
PS....If you don't want to use it can I borrow it.

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Chant57
Chant57 e2 Member 8371 forum postsChant57 vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 4:31 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

This works well in monochrome Phil. The trade off , to me, being the loss of the colour given by the Heather against what, to me, is a much better sky when rendered in monochrome.
Before printing , I would suggest that the water highlights are given a wee bit of attention , as that area seems to keep grabbing my attention , rather than allowing my eyes to wander through the scene. I'm assuming that the RAW file is showing no blown highlights but feel that a little " recovery" in that area of water will make all the difference.

Hope it does well for you in the club competition.

C

Last Modified By Chant57 at 29 Sep 2011 - 4:34 PM

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achieverswales
29 Sep 2011 - 5:29 PM

Excellent tones Phil! Enter it.

Regards

Trev.

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TrevBatWCC
TrevBatWCC e2 Member 6TrevBatWCC vcard England7 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 6:18 PM

Super images, Phil, I have to say I prefer the colour, V3 being my fave, though the sky looks more dramatic in mono Wink
Trev Smile

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marktc
marktc e2 Member 342 forum postsmarktc vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 7:54 PM

V2 wins it for me, a lovely image

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kinfatric
kinfatric  9550 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 8:09 PM

Ver2 for me also.

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helenlinda
helenlinda e2 Member 7337 forum postshelenlinda vcard United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
29 Sep 2011 - 9:07 PM

v3 is my choice today - but I hope your mono does well for you in your competition Phil Smile
Helen

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pluckyfilly
pluckyfilly e2 Member 7282 forum postspluckyfilly vcard United Kingdom33 Constructive Critique Points
30 Sep 2011 - 11:06 AM

for me V3 all the way

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73801 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
30 Sep 2011 - 2:19 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

It has all been said really. The water does take away from it slightly. Was this a conversion of the colour image - or did you start afresh from the RAW? The reason I ask is that sometimes its better to start from the RAW for mono conversions - for example a different colour balace will give different results. I tend to use Lightroom, I have a preset for monos that I temporarily apply to get somewhere close. I then switch this off and output to Photoshop for the proper conversion.

You may be able to pull some of the highlight detail back from the water. Did you sharpen all the image? This will affect the water - beter use selective sharpening. Also if you have a heavy curve layer this can affect it.

If you have lost highlight detail, you could put either a gausian blur or diffuse glow adjustment layer and apply it only to the water.

I hope this makes sense. I normally wouldn't go into detail, but as its for your competition it may help.

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oll1e
oll1e e2 Member 755 forum postsoll1e vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Sep 2011 - 9:14 PM

agree with nick and others phil ,but get it entered as its a lovely imageWink

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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 6barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
3 Oct 2011 - 9:53 AM

v1 for me ..... and good luck

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