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Many thanks from everyone for the comments and votes yesterday. A problem that I have experienced before is happening again, the first image is not the right colour to what I saw when the photo was taken but there is such a difference, I upload to EPZ by using the save to web function, the problem I have is that if I save as the colours come out muted see V2 there is a difference in colour, when I save as I save in 16 bit JPEG, colour mode RGB and colour profile ProPhoto, this is the specifications the site wants, so not sure what is happening, if any one has any ideas of how to rectify this I would be grateful.

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D300S Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:12.0-24.0 mm f/4.0
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:23 Aug 2013 - 12:37 PM
Focal Length:12mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0
Aperture:f/16.0
Shutter Speed:1/45sec
Exposure Comp:-3/2
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Manual
Title:Can You Help
Username:achieverswales achieverswales
Uploaded:13 Oct 2013 - 12:18 AM
Tags:Landscape / travel, Llanberis, Snowdonia
Votes:31
Variant - TestsVariant - Tests

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richmowil
richmowil e2 Member 5240 forum postsrichmowil vcard England1 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 12:22 AM

Strange effect on this fine composition!! I don't know why this happens - sorry!!

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Jocelia
Jocelia e2 Member 3Jocelia vcard Australia1 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 12:46 AM

This is different Trevor even though it is a fluke.
Lovely landscape and variation. WinkWink

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tonyguitar
13 Oct 2013 - 12:50 AM

Bless your good luck. I am a fair judge of art and here you have both an
artwork and a well composed document of a pleasing scene. You can fine tune
the document image in many ways so not really a problem. A pleasing image
in both forms. TG

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Trev_B
Trev_B e2 Member 7101 forum postsTrev_B vcard England63 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 1:06 AM

Hi Trev... I had a problem using Prophoto RGB where a couple members were telling me that the images looked lacking in colour, do you remember as you mentioned it to me and I said they looked ok? Anyhow mate your V2 looks ok to me. When I was digging around I found that some browsers don't like Prophoto RGB firefox was one of the browsers. There is quite allot in the forums about this, try searching Prophoto RGB. V1 is a puzzle though.

Best of luck.

Last Modified By Trev_B at 13 Oct 2013 - 1:07 AM

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geoffrey baker
geoffrey baker e2 Member 10496 forum postsgeoffrey baker vcard Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 1:38 AM

Hi Trev,

I resize mine in photoshop, image/image size, so don't use the save for web function.
I have my camera set to RGB so I convert to profile in photoshop before uploading to the web, edit/convert to profile and choose sRGB.
Mine are 8 bit JPEGs, as far as I know it's not possible to save as a 16 bit JPEG as the format doesn't support 16 bit.
I save as Tiffs after RAW conversion.
I haven't used the Prophoto file format myself yet.
Hope this helps as I have no colour issues using my method.

Geoff.

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Hermanus
Hermanus  2 South Africa
13 Oct 2013 - 4:23 AM

As you know I am technically disadvantaged Trev - I just know I like the view you captured so well SmileGrin

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece16 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 6:01 AM


Quote: As you know I am technically disadvantaged Trev - I just know I like the view you captured so well SmileGrin

Me too, Trev, wouldn't have a clue, I'm afraid. Carol

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Mollycat
Mollycat e2 Member Mollycat vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 7:20 AM

Trev. As you know, technically I'm a numbskull, but as a landscape V2 is as it should be. Peter.

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netta1234
netta1234 e2 Member 2153 forum postsnetta1234 vcard Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 8:26 AM


Quote: As you know I am technically disadvantaged Trev - I just know I like the view you captured so well SmileGrin

Sorry cant help you here TrevSmileBut hope someone willSmile
NettaSmile

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DicksPics
DicksPics e2 Member 3DicksPics vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 8:36 AM

I can't help regarding the colours, Trev - I don't usually do the save for web function but,
I have experienced difficulties sometimes - usually regarding the size of the image you see on EPZ.
I do know that I like your images, though.

Richard

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NDODS
NDODS e2 Member 32885 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom99 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 8:54 AM

I think you have been given the answer you were looking for.

Image two is quite spectacular Trevor, a beautiful and dramatic landscape...

Regards Nathan GrinGrinGrin

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widtink
widtink  2406 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 9:18 AM

V2 is a lovely composition Smile

Rod

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franken
franken e2 Member 113048 forum postsfranken vcard Wales4 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 10:38 AM

Sorry, I can't help Trev. Version 2 is lovely.

Ken

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
13 Oct 2013 - 10:56 AM

V1 for me. The pinky colours add to the photo and make it look like a painting Smile love the creativity Smile

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digital_boi
13 Oct 2013 - 11:15 AM

try it the way Geoff says his answer seems very plausible Trevor, thinking back you had an issue with this before or something similar which was that your picture output was being corrupted ic the pink one was done in light room and the v2 in photoshop maybe the light room output is being corrupted try uninstalling it and then reinstall like Geoff I upload in sRGB.
anyway good luck its frustrating for sure, fine composition and gets the vote

Graham

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Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 3Irishkate vcard United Kingdom73 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 11:34 AM

A lovely landscape Trevotr which does look more natural in V2.
Banehawi gave advice to Nigeve1 probably about a month ago.
I know it was suggested you use sRGB from profiles.
The rest of it is beyond my understanding but banehawi is the man to ask.
KateGrinGrinGrin

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Rende
Rende e2 Member 737 forum postsRende vcard Netherlands4 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 11:39 AM

Fortunately it doesn't mess up the composition which is excellent Smile
I generally upload the full sized JPEG and let the site's software deal with it; it generally does a good job.
Rende

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TrevBatWCC
TrevBatWCC e2 Member 6TrevBatWCC vcard England8 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 4:52 PM

Mmmm...not sure about this problem. I use sRGB throughout and save my processed Raw file as 8 bit - if I use 16 bit, many of the menu items are greyed out in my Elements Editor. I have however just tried saving a 16 bit processed Raw file, without any tweaking in the menu items, using the 'Save To Web' option, which I always use when uploading to EPZ, and it looks the same as when I started out, so don't know how you've managed this! Must be something in the profiles somewhere along the line Sad
Anyway, do love the scene you've captured, and looks good in V2 Smile
Trev Smile

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saeidNL
saeidNL  4 Netherlands3 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 6:19 PM

Fantastic and great image,V2 is my favorite,
saeid

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LynneJoyce
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13 Oct 2013 - 6:34 PM

Clueless about the technical problem but love version 2.

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sparrowhawk
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13 Oct 2013 - 6:47 PM

i know you say the colours are wrong but i quite like it ! although v2 is more accurate in your opinion both are great in there own right

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Craggwildlife e2 Member 571 forum postsCraggwildlife vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2013 - 8:33 PM

sorry cannot help with the problem

V2 for me...

David

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achieverswales
13 Oct 2013 - 8:38 PM

Thanks everyone I have followed Geoff's advice and things now seem OK.

Regards

Trev.

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13 Oct 2013 - 8:38 PM

I've no idea what has occured here unfortunately

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Alan_Baseley
Alan_Baseley e2 Member 13320 forum postsAlan_Baseley vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
14 Oct 2013 - 8:31 AM

V2 looks fine to me Trev.
As far as I'm aware epz and most websites use the sRGB colour space, which is what you get when you use the "save for web" function.
I edit them in pro-photo colour space, save as Tiff, reduce the size to ~1200 pixels max on one side and then use the save for web function, adjusting the blur amount to suit and using either usually bicubic but sometimes bicubic sharper.
I then use the preview in Browser function and if it's OK, Save.
Whilst the images may not be materpieces the jpg usually looks, basically, the same colour as the tiff.
Upload and EPZ takes care of the rest.
Hope this helps,

Alan

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ValeryAst
ValeryAst  2 Russian Federation
14 Oct 2013 - 10:06 PM

Unfortunately I can not help you in solving of this problem, Trev ... I take only JPEG pictures... alasSad
But I like the color's variant hereSmile
Regards Valery

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Chinga
Chinga e2 Member 3Chinga vcard United Kingdom
15 Oct 2013 - 6:20 AM

Beautiful place! This is simple and sweet, heartfelt and luscious. V2 looks amazing (and green!)
What looks so easy often is not. Can't help with the technical... But Pink is not your colour Trev! Grin
IB

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annettep38
annettep38 e2 Member 3186 forum postsannettep38 vcard France30 Constructive Critique Points
18 Oct 2013 - 3:51 PM

v2 for me and I think Alan is right. But the for instance today's bird looks fine here, on Francis' Windows it looks black. Go figureSad

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mashwood10
mashwood10 e2 Member 2mashwood10 vcard United Kingdom
30 Oct 2013 - 3:58 PM

If any, it's V2 for me. Great PF you have here. Some really great shots !!!!GrinGrinGrin

Pam

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