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This is the one I forgot to upload with its color version yesterday, which to you prefer? again sorry don,t know how to upload additional photo info.

Camera:Nikon D300 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:Nikon DX AF-S 55-200mm f4-5.6G ED VR
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:18 Feb 2013 - 12:48 PM
Title:Cat Bells B&W
Username:Mike43 Mike43
Uploaded:18 Feb 2013 - 4:52 PM
Tags:Landscape / travel
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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10986 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2982 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 5:01 PM

On the upload page Mike, on the right, about halfway down, theres a link that says More Exif Data, just click it.

It does work as a mono, - the hills behind have better definition, but I would prefer the colour version.

I will go back to that and use it to see if some duo tone or tri tone treatments would work, and upload them here.



regards



Willie

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 5:12 PM

Is this a crop from a bigger image? I think this would work even more if you could somehow "place" the diagonal line (peak) of the foreground mountain in such a way that it travels from the lower right third intersection towards the top left third intersection. Would create a more pleasing image in my opinion.

Regardless, this looks like an interesting place to be with a camera!

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richmowil
richmowil e2 Member 5279 forum postsrichmowil vcard England1 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 5:23 PM

Cracking landscape with wonderful light well captured!

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salopian
salopian e2 Member 3salopian vcard United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 5:28 PM

This is a dramatic mountain shot as well and tempts me to look out my old walking boots (!), but the hills in the background seem to be more defined and compete with the near ridge for attention. In the colour version they provide a misty, blue background which sets off the ridge nicely.
I would have been very pleased to have taken either shot!

Geoff

( Thanks for the Wainwright info )

Last Modified By salopian at 18 Feb 2013 - 5:31 PM

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boov
boov  2 United Kingdom
18 Feb 2013 - 5:37 PM

Vast, superb B/W.....

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PhilSingleton
PhilSingleton e2 Member 2PhilSingleton vcard United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 6:20 PM

Really like this - superb tones, lighting and clarity.
Phil.

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Mike43
Mike43 e2 Member 3Mike43 vcard England16 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 6:32 PM


Quote: On the upload page Mike, on the right, about halfway down, theres a link that says More Exif Data, just click it.

It does work as a mono, - the hills behind have better definition, but I would prefer the colour version.

I will go back to that and use it to see if some duo tone or tri tone treatments would work, and upload them here.



regards



Willie

Thanks Willie on the exif info, and the Mod.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 6:39 PM

Just type it in, Mike. That's what I do. Put it in my description field. Not sure which I prefer. They are both very nice and I would normally say colour, but The mono is pretty good too.

Paul

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8829 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1638 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 9:35 PM

I really liked your colour version of this, Mike.
I didn't think I would like the mono version, after all it's all about those colours. However, I think it works really well, accentuting the contours, shapes and contrasts. I suppose it would be fair to say that if I hadn't seen the colour version, this mono would certainly get a thumbs up.
However, there are a few things that I noticed:
It looks like the colour version has been cropped. It may be that, since you were emphasizing the colours in your previous upload, that you chose to eliminate some of the surrounding scene. My opinion is that I think the colour version would look better if it were not cropped, as I prefer the composition of the mono. That little bit more of the water at the bottom, mountains at the top, and particularly the extra space on the right, makes all the difference, and the mountainside doesn't look so confined in the frame.
I also noticed that there are some light areas in the water, in the colour version, which are not there in the mono, and I must prefer that. Were these two separate pictures, taken at different times? Or did you do some work on the water? If they are separate images, then maybe you didn't crop the coloured one?
Pamela.

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Jestertheclown
18 Feb 2013 - 9:45 PM

I think I prefer this to the colour version.

I'd also recommend trying some duo- or tri-tones on it. I much prefer them to straightforward B/W nowadays.

Bren.

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 9:48 PM

something really nice going on here with the mono conversion because its resulted in a near infrared appearance and adds that layer of creativity. there is a lot of drama and lovely contrast but in some ways the recession up towards the top right corner is creating a bit of an eye puller and i wondered if a crop from the top, obviously above the first peak would tighten things up a bit. ill do a mod to see.
regards
Phil

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 2124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 10:27 PM

Like PamelaJean I thought the colour was a must for this image but now I see the B+W I think they both have merits in there own rights. My only issue with this shot is it has for me an overall greyness with very few strong deep blacks and vivid whites so I've up loaded a mod which I adjusted in levels to bring the highlights and shadows up to the edge of the histogram and then I darkened the mid-tones just to improve the overall contrast.

I know it may not be everybody's taste but for me this is where B+W works best with strong tonal contrasts.

I'd really like to know what you think.

Eric

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2013 - 10:55 PM

Willie's tone mod look just like an image from a 1930's Ward Lock guide to the Lake District that I have. Good one
Ian

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Mike43
Mike43 e2 Member 3Mike43 vcard England16 Constructive Critique Points
20 Feb 2013 - 9:17 AM

Thanks all for your comments and Mods much appreciated, for myself I prefer B&W Landscapes: Color just don,t have the same impact, but Mono it is all to do with subject matter of the picture.
Mike.

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