Login or Join Now

Upload your photos, chat, win prizes and much more

Username:
Password:
Remember Me

Can't Access your Account?

New to ePHOTOzine? Join ePHOTOzine for free!

Childhood Dreams

Join Now

Join ePHOTOzine, the friendliest photography community.

Upload photos, chat with photographers, win prizes and much more for free!

55% OFF new PortraitPro 12 - use code EPHZROS414.
Add Comment

As a small boy I would always receive an Airfix Kit at Christmas or Birthdays, and the first thing that struck me was the image on the front of the box. Those images inspired me in many ways, and it was not until my later life that I began appreciating the work, since then I have now collected three original paintings.

This piece depicting HMS Cavalier, which is berthed at Chatham's Historical Dockyards has been created to celebrate the artwork of Roy Cross, probably Airfix's most famous box-top illustrator. Roy was born in Southwark, London in 1924, and started his artistic career during the second world war, working in an aircraft factory making technical illustrations for training manuals. After the war, Roy became a freelance commercial artist, and began working for Airfix in the early 1960s - his first illustration being the Dornier Do-217. As Roy worked for Airfix during the mid-60s to mid-70s, he is thus associated with Type 3 boxes and plastic bag header cards. His last commission for Airfix was the Prinz Eugen of 1974. Roy Cross continues to work as a marine artist, selling most of his work through a gallery in the Salem, Massachusetts.

A big thank you goes out to you all for your most kind and flattering comments regarding yesterdays upload 'Dehydrated Hydrangeas'

I hope that you all have a great day, for me I shall be banished whilst the removal men start packing stuff into boxes and crates, ready for the move on Monday morning. From arriving at my new home until the 1st of November I shall be without the internet, however my wife is going to but a USB Dingle which she can use on her Mac Air. If I get the opportunity to upload, brows or comment I shall.

Regards Nathan

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon IXUS 1100 HS
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:3 Oct 2012 - 12:46 PM
Focal Length:5mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.4
Aperture:f/4.0
Shutter Speed:1/2000sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:160
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Auto, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:Childhood Dreams
Username:NDODS NDODS
Uploaded:19 Oct 2012 - 5:43 AM
Tags:Airfix, Art, Digitally manipulated, Models
VS Mode Rating 93 (26.09% won)
These stats show the percentage of wins and the rating score that your photo has achieved. You can go to the VS Mode by clicking on this icon.

Signup to e2

Signup to e2 to see which photo this has won or lost against in the vs mode
Votes:78

Comments

CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7125 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece16 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 5:48 AM

A beautiful painting, Nathan, very well captured. All the very best with the move, a very trying and stressful time, I know. Carol

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Hermanus
Hermanus  1 South Africa
19 Oct 2012 - 5:55 AM

This also holds special memories to me of those wonderfully carefree days when we could achieve anything in our vivid imaginations Smile May the moving experience be without trauma and I trust your new home will be all you hope it to be ! Will miss you until then Smile

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

gazlowe
gazlowe e2 Member 2gazlowe vcard United Kingdom
19 Oct 2012 - 5:57 AM

beautiful very well captured good luck with the move Nathan

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

gwynn56
gwynn56  252 forum posts England
19 Oct 2012 - 6:04 AM

certainly stands out , well done , as for Airfix models , somehow mine never seemed to match the pictures on the boxes , always seemed to get glue all over the place ,you may be banished while they packing but i got a shrewd susspicion you'll be trying to capture a few pictures Smile, hope all goes well and it stays fine for the day

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

lesliea
lesliea e2 Member 4lesliea vcard Australia
19 Oct 2012 - 6:11 AM

Very nice image well done .
Allen, Smile

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4133 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland110 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 6:40 AM

A dramatic painting which would attract any small boy, and not so small too, to spend pocket money on the kit and build the ship.
Certainly brings back memories for me from many decades back.
Hope the move goes smoothly and that you do not get withdrawal symptoms (WinkWink) in the meantime, Nathan.
Ronnie.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Andysnapper
Andysnapper e2 Member 596 forum postsAndysnapper vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 6:49 AM

When I first saw this I thought 'Oh dear, Nathan's gone mad' but then I read your write-up and actually this is almost exactly as I remember the painting on the Airfix boxes.
My best friend and I used to buy each other Airfix kits every birthday and Christmas for years and on his 50th last year I bought him the Ark Royal (for a laugh really) and he built it and painted it and has it displayed in his lounge. He makes at least one a week now and says it has given him the hobby he had wanted for ages. Grin

Cheers and thanks for bringing back happy memories.

Andy

PS Hope the move goes well.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Tibetan
Tibetan  1 England
19 Oct 2012 - 7:02 AM

Well Nathan I personally was not in to airfix, spent most of my childhood in convalescent homes, the rest was spent dodging bombs in the blitz and collecting shrapnel, sometimes hot the attraction was the colours of the metal like a rainbow, or tail fins from fire bombs lol., watching dog fight over Kent, did not need airfix we had the real thing!. I do in fact remember this box, my cousin had it! so it was quite a shock seeing your photo, I can only say, well done as always Nathan hope it does well for you, regards Leon, take care now.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

gajewski
gajewski e2 Member 9gajewski vcard United States9 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:06 AM

Nathan -- great processing and I really enjoyed reading your write-up.
-=\Walter

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

jdinne
jdinne e2 Member 10jdinne vcard England
19 Oct 2012 - 7:28 AM

Wonderful work here Nathan its brilliant. Once swapped a leather football for HMS Hood.

Hope the move goes well for you Nathan.

John

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

StrayCat
StrayCat  1014201 forum posts Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:31 AM

As always, excellent work Nathan, and really enjoyed the explanation you've provided. I wish you all the best in your move and look forward to your return.

Cheers,
Denny

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

SUE118
SUE118 e2 Member 5SUE118 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:40 AM

Hope all goes well for your move and like your wife I use Dongle but I think I prefer the name Dingle. Take care you two I'll be thinking of you both. Sue x

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

andylea
andylea e2 Member 537 forum postsandylea vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:51 AM

brilliant colours here nathan belting detail hope the move goes well a belter nice one Wink
andy

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

morpheus1955
morpheus1955 e2 Member 7morpheus1955 vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 8:31 AM

Superb image Nathan, I remember those vibrant exciting Airfix box lids, I spent many a happy hour or so making and painting the models. have a great day, hope the move goes smoothly.

Hugh

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Badgerfred
Badgerfred e2 Member 6Badgerfred vcard Wales
19 Oct 2012 - 8:51 AM

Super image Nathan, excellent work,
Fred.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Jocelia
Jocelia e2 Member 2Jocelia vcard Australia1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 8:51 AM

This is a delight for shapes and colours and very cleverly mastered.
The thumbnail bounces of the page with impact. Just lovely……

Jocelia…….

Here is wishing you joy in your new abode for your move.
A sad goodbye to what you leave behind but with glorious fond memories I hope…….J…..

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 5barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 8:51 AM

looks like we are both going down the nostalga road today

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

rayme330
rayme330 e2 Member 2rayme330 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 9:04 AM

Wonderful image and narrative, Nathan. Good luck with the move.

Ray

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

JohnChambersPhotography

Good narrative Nathan one in which I share your views, I really enjoyed making them kits still do but now it's for the grandkids, so I tell them !!!.. Good luck with the move I'm sure it will go just fine,

John

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 4966 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England129 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 9:43 AM

I only ever did a couple of ships, much preferred the aeroplanes which dangled from my ceiling. I always managed to get the glue/cement on the canopies which then became rather opaque Sad. Ah, happy memories. A fitting tribute, Nathan, and excellent information.

Dave

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

AnnChown
AnnChown e2 Member 4180 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 9:56 AM

Good luck with your move Nathan and look forward to seeing you back soon!
Ann

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Herge88
Herge88 e2 Member 736 forum postsHerge88 vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 10:01 AM

Brings back memories, airfix models, nice one.

Best Matt

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Joao_Lopes
19 Oct 2012 - 10:09 AM

After reading all the comments, i don't have much more to say, i like a lot. It's good representation of your memories.
All the best Nathan.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 103956 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland24 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 10:10 AM

I was all fingas and fumbs getting uhu glue everywhere GrinGrinGrin

but can appreciate the art...next stage is how do i get it into the bottle WinkGrinGrin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 3Irishkate vcard United Kingdom71 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 10:49 AM

A wonderful image full of nostalgia Nathan.
Good luck with the flitting.
KateGrinGrinGrin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

luckybry
luckybry e2 Member 4luckybry vcard Scotland
19 Oct 2012 - 11:02 AM

nathan i like this would love to see the originail judst to compare

bryan

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

EAS
EAS e2 Member 5EAS vcard Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 11:13 AM

A dramatic looking image. How lovely to have 3 originals. All the best with the house move. Still recall only too well how stressful it can be!

Ann

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman e2 Member 114435 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 11:53 AM

You know me Nathan I say it as I find it and I have to say this is a little bit too psychedelic for my tastes, have they been giving you too many pills mucker?......Seriously though, not my cup of tea, but can understand your thinking behind it and appreciate it for that!

AdeTongue

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

digital_boi
19 Oct 2012 - 12:06 PM

brought back many memories Nathan so thanks for that...trust all goes well for the move

GrahamGrinGrinGrin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

taggart
taggart e2 Member 942 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 12:39 PM

Good Luck, I am wishing a comfortable move for you and yours, take care!


an interesting painting--

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

canonfan
canonfan e2 Member 3canonfan vcard United Kingdom
19 Oct 2012 - 12:40 PM

Wonderful work Nathan. I too built my airfix kits. I hope that your move goes well and is stress free
Jim

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

fificat100
fificat100 e2 Member 3fificat100 vcard Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 1:55 PM

Until I read of your thinking I did wonder what I was seeing!Grin Reckon you have done a great job with this, and created an unusual and striking image. I like it! - Only air-fix I ever built was a sailing ship, a LONG time ago!!
Trust your moving goes without a hitch.
Lavina

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Fefe
Fefe e2 Member 2Fefe vcard United Kingdom25 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 2:11 PM

I am not familiar with airfix boxes................... now monopoly I would be excited. Great work all the sameGrinGrin
Best wishes for the moveGrin
Diane

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Deep_Bhatia
19 Oct 2012 - 2:25 PM

Nice depiction of Childhood Dreams, Nathan. Deep

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

TrevBatWCC
TrevBatWCC e2 Member 5TrevBatWCC vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 2:59 PM

I used to enjoy putting together Airfix kits, but the only ones I can remember were a small German Stukka aircraft, a small 1911 Rolls Royce car, and my favourite, a large Lancaster bomber!
A fine colourful presentation, Nathan, and thanks for bringing back the memories...and the interesting write-up, too Wink
Trev Smile

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

prabhusinha
prabhusinha e2 Member 6prabhusinha vcard India3 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 3:11 PM

A child always sits in a man, plays around in dreams only. Under a colorful sky, a serviceman for the country,saluting the national flag .....but all analyst say, we dream in B&W, I don't think so anyway. Here is the proof.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

ali63
ali63 e2 Member 2449 forum postsali63 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 3:11 PM

A very different style today Nathan. i like it , i hope that your move goes smoothly,
Regards,
Ali,GrinGrinGrin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

mikbee
mikbee e2 Member 7mikbee vcard Scotland7 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 3:52 PM

I used to build the Airfix aeroplanes Nathan.
Ships were always too hard for me as there was too many ''bits'' to them !!
A different and interesting shot here.
Mick.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Lillian
Lillian e2 Member 4Lillian vcard United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 4:11 PM

Great inventive image here Nathan...all the very best for the move
hope all goes well for you and Julie..and don't forget the 31st!
Lillian

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

carper123
carper123 e2 Member 277 forum postscarper123 vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 4:38 PM

Nice one, Nathan, as usual very informative and great processing.
Hope the move goes well.
Darryl. SmileSmile

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

basith
basith  1 Sri Lanka
19 Oct 2012 - 6:30 PM

Nice painting....[quote]A very different style today Nathan. i like it , i hope that your move goes smoothly,
Basith

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

widtink
widtink e2 Member 1404 forum postswidtink vcard Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:30 PM

Nice one Nathan good luck for the moveWink

Rod

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

netta1234
netta1234 e2 Member 2101 forum postsnetta1234 vcard Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:34 PM

A great one Nathen,All the best with your move,and do take care,look after youselfSmileSmileSmileSmile
NettaSmile

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

pluckyfilly
pluckyfilly e2 Member 7282 forum postspluckyfilly vcard United Kingdom33 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 7:41 PM

I think it's actually called a dongleWinkbut as long as it does the trick you may call it as you wishWink superb upload, do I detect a touch of HDR?

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

ChristineD
ChristineD e2 Member 8ChristineD vcard England
19 Oct 2012 - 8:20 PM

A beautiful painting, well captured. good luck with the move

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

pdcche
pdcche  3 United Kingdom
19 Oct 2012 - 8:27 PM

Beautiful Nathan, excellent colours, hope all goes well with your move, take care, Peter..

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8686 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1531 Constructive Critique Points
19 Oct 2012 - 9:53 PM

At first sight, I thought the processing and colours strange, but after reading your intention, I have to applaud your work in reconstructing the box picture. I never had anything like that as a child, but girls probably didn't.
Hope there is no trauma attached to the move, that everything goes smoothly, and you soon feel settled in your new home.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Humblebee
Humblebee  1 England
19 Oct 2012 - 10:24 PM

From home with only girls, Airfix means little to me, but I love your image for the vibrancy of the colours and detail ... Carol Grin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

thedon1941
20 Oct 2012 - 12:44 AM

Another wonderful image Nathan, almost surreal. We'll have to dub you the Salvador Daly of Digital Photography. Don

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Glostopcat
Glostopcat e2 Member 8226 forum postsGlostopcat vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
20 Oct 2012 - 11:39 AM

A real work of art Nathan, very psychedelic and colourful. As Forrest Gump would say "Life is like a box of chocolates", and it is very apt to describe your photography too, as we never know what we are going to get from you, which is a good thing by the way. I hope your move goes ahead without hitch and you have fun dangling your dongle until you are connected up to broadband once again!Wink

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

bobsblues
bobsblues e2 Member 4bobsblues vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
20 Oct 2012 - 7:46 PM

The airfix models bring back many memories Nathan excellent photo .Hope you have a good move .Smile
Rob.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

jasonrwl
jasonrwl e2 Member 430 forum postsjasonrwl vcard United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
21 Oct 2012 - 8:49 AM

Great stuff Nathan. Looks like we all have similar memories - or at least all the men/boys. Grin

Very interesting that you have been able to start collecting the originals - antiques of the future.
Jason

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

NeilWigan
NeilWigan e2 Member 3NeilWigan vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
26 Oct 2012 - 12:45 AM

i also loved making up Airfix kits usually purchsed from woolworths after a Saturday session at the local baths.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

- Original Poster Comments
- Your Posts

Add a Comment

You must be a member to leave a comment

Username:
Password:
Remember me:
Un-tick this box if you want to login each time you visit.