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A forest walk opposite Caswell Bay.

I don't know if this is blurry or not....the steps seem to be in focus ~ I don't know about the surrounding area. I am starting to think I have my camera on a wrong setting. Please help me out on this.

Thanks for all your comments etc. on my previous uploads. Very much appreciated.

~Necia~

Camera:Fujifilm FinePix Z20fd
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Title:Climb with me
Username:Neeka Neeka
Uploaded:13 Jun 2009 - 9:47 AM
Tags:Wildlife / nature
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martinjp
martinjp  5 Wales3 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 9:59 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Necia, leave the camera on the settings, as is, take a picture, noting settings... then take same pic in auto and compare settings. Dont worry about a bit of blur, the wind blows!!! but too much can spoil the shot... then resort to a faster shutter speed... Suck it and see is the answer!!! Smile

Martin.

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martinjp  5 Wales3 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 10:00 AM

bet the wild garlic smelt lovely too!!!

Martin.

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morpheus1955
13 Jun 2009 - 10:01 AM

Hi Necia, What a super image, I love the way the steps lead you through the image, and the wonderful vibrant colours surrounding it.
It certainly dont look blurred to me, so very well spotted and captured.

Hugh

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Rogerex
Rogerex  829 forum posts Australia12 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 10:03 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

A nice scene, I like the way the steps lead the viewers eyes into the distance, but I would prefer to see this one a bit sharper too. Have you checked your lens to see if it is clean?
Roger
PS, just another thought - if this was taken in low light, camera movement could cause it to lack a bit of sharpness.

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:03 AM


Quote: then resort to a faster shutter speed...

Hi Martin ~ I don't have shutter speeds 'n things - just a point and shoot - me thinks that is what they call it????

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:04 AM


Quote: A nice scene, I like the way the steps lead the viewers eyes into the distance, but I would prefer to see this one a bit sharper too. Have you checked your lens to see if it is clean?
Roger

Yep ~ I always wipe it - it is a tiny lense.... Thanks Roger.

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:09 AM


Quote: PS, just another thought - if this was taken in low light, camera movement could cause it to lack a bit of sharpness

Sorry Roger ~ I don't know what you mean by low light??

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EAS  5 Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 10:22 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Low light would be when it's getting darker towords evening or under a canopy of trees, which it would be in this case. The camera, being a point and shoot, is going to struggle to focus without more light. I think there's a lack of something to really focus on, other than the lower steps. Perhaps from behind a clump of that wonderful wild garlic would have done the trick, as I love the way the steps disappear into the distance, but am not 100% taken with focusing on just a step in the foreground. Hope this is OK with you as I am all too aware that helpful comments can read as horrid criticism - been ther & done that!!

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:25 AM


Quote: Hope this is OK with you as I am all too aware that helpful comments can read as horrid criticism - been ther & done that!!

Thank you ~ your comment has really helped!!!

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davey_griffo
13 Jun 2009 - 10:38 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Do you know, as soon as I saw the thumbnail, & read the title, I thought "that's a Neeka". You certainly seem to be developing a style of your own.

Another possibility for your focus problem could be that the lens is just a bit soft at the outer edges. They often are on even the most expensive lenses. It may be something you can't do anything about.

It could also be a slow shutter speed combined with movement in the trees & grasses, so it's motion rather than focus blur. Again beyong your control.

I like the focus on the steps, they are the subject!

Don't beat yourself up. It's a lovely shot. A "Neeka" to be proud of. Pity I can't vote on it.

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:43 AM


Quote: Don't beat yourself up. It's a lovely shot. A "Neeka" to be proud of.

Awwww Davey - you just made my day - thank you......I do really want to try and get it right though - and yeah, I am kinda beating myself up. I am going to take a few pics today and just use auto and see what happens.... Thank you!!

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BarryC123
BarryC123  643 forum posts Ireland25 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 1:19 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Another lovely shot - quite dream-like especially the way the trees have come out.
This would be a tricky shot to get right on 'auto' settings, there's quite a range of light for one thing.
I don't know your camera, but what settings are your photos saving at ?
To me, this looks like it's not set to save at the highest quality, so that might be something to consider?

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mrswoolybill Critique Team 7450 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1030 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 2:01 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The focus works for me, it's sharp under our feet, softer in the distance and looking towards the bright light, which more or less mimics how the human eye sees.
It would be worth hunting out the instruction booklet that you got with your camera and seeing if you can take a bit more control of the settings.
Plus, if you go into your picture files on your hard drive and right click on an open picture or the thumb nail you should be able to open 'properties', and see what the camera set itself to.
Moira

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KevinWalsham
13 Jun 2009 - 2:41 PM

nice image well captured I like it well done.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10898 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2892 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 6:30 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Necia, - you certainly received a lot of feedback!

You asked about the foreground being in focus, and the rest blurry. This may be because the aperture used for the shot is wide, which will give a shallow depth of field.

See here for an explanation of Depth of Field:

http://www.dofmaster.com


It is likely that you also focused on the near objects when you took the shot. For a landscape, - focus about 1/3 the distance into the shot, - not infinity. and see the difference.
You camera is an advanced point and shoot, and it has a large number of modes you can select for shooting. In a shot like this, select the Landscape mode, and the camera should provide more depth for this type of shot.
Why not experiment with all of the modes using the same subject and see the difference, - you will know which to use in the futre, and you will gain confidence.

Hope this is helpful,


Regards


Willie

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ChiliMan e2 Member 8135 forum postsChiliMan vcard Singapore17 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 7:35 PM

Very well composed, Necia, I love the perspective Smile But this too is not really in focus. Tell you what...post some shooting details and then we could see what it might be. Could very well just be insufficient light or a low ISO causing a slower shutter speed to be used by the cam.

Andrew Smile

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Roly
Roly  7 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 9:03 PM

A lovely image with nice colours and a great viewpoint.It doesn't look out of focus to me.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10898 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2892 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jun 2009 - 9:19 PM

I came back for a second look after thinking about your question..


As has been mentioned above, its best if you provide the shot settings. If you have a editing programme, the EXIF data from the shot will have the details on shutter speed, aperture, mode, etc.

It may be too slow a shutter speed that blurs anything moving slightly, like the leaves, while the steps will be sharp; and it might also be your lens is soft at the edges when zoomed out completely (wide)

Ive loaded a mod that looks sharper, - see what you think. Apart from sharpening, I desaturated the colour quite a bit, - this can also cause a blurred effect sometimes as the colours bleed outside their pixels.




Regards


Willie

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Snaphappyannie
13 Jun 2009 - 10:03 PM

Hi Necia - sorry not to have been commenting for a couple of days - but 'work' - is such a four letter word, isn't it?
Love your shots - and you have a good eye for a composition. You seem to be worried about sharpness, or lack of it, in your pictures - and you've had a lot of advice about shutter speeds and apertures - and you say you have a "point and shoot" which doesn't give this kind of information. Have you tried a tripod? When I did my GCE '0' level (in the dark ages!!) the chap teaching us said the biggest improvements we could make to our pictures would be to use a tripod. A bit of a faff - but he was right! Suddenly, focusing improves no end!! Try it?

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:04 PM


Quote: Plus, if you go into your picture files on your hard drive and right click on an open picture or the thumb nail you should be able to open 'properties', and see what the camera set itself to.
Moira


Quote: but what settings are your photos saving at ?
To me, this looks like it's not set to save at the highest quality, so that might be something to consider? Barry


Quote: Tell you what...post some shooting details and then we could see what it might be. Could very well just be insufficient light or a low ISO causing a slower shutter speed to be used by the cam.

Andrew


Quote: As has been mentioned above, its best if you provide the shot settings. Willie

Gosh guys ~ thank you ~ I am kind of overwhelmed by this all now. I checked the ISO which is ISO-800 / Exposure time is 1/75 sec. / F. stop is F/3.7 / Max apeture 3.8 / Focal length 6mm.

Okay - so I don't have a clue what all that means, but I'm sure you know.......sorry for being such a pain....

Thank you for all your time......xxx


Quote:
Ive loaded a mod that looks sharper, - see what you think. Apart from sharpening, I desaturated the colour quite a bit, - this can also cause a blurred effect sometimes as the colours bleed outside their pixels. Willie


Thank you Willie - that is looking so much better.

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
13 Jun 2009 - 10:06 PM


Quote: Have you tried a tripod? When I did my GCE '0' level (in the dark ages!!) the chap teaching us said the biggest improvements we could make to our pictures would be to use a tripod. A bit of a faff - but he was right! Suddenly, focusing improves no end!! Try it?

Thank you Ann ~ I shall have to put that on my 'gifts list' Grin

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bpearson3
bpearson3  5 England1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Jun 2009 - 12:49 AM

Hi Necia.
This is a beautiful, well composed shot.
I just want to start climbing those steps....... I wonder where they lead? LOL

Bev Smile

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andylea
andylea  637 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Jun 2009 - 9:16 AM

great colour wonderful lead in with the steps i like this shot a lot as for your camera settings you have to get your self a tripod and then play around with diffrent exposures and white balance after all if things dont work out you can always delete them once you have your kit its free
nice one again neeka Wink
andy

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