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this is the cockpit of a lancaster bomber unmodified.

Brand:PENTAX Corporation
Camera:Fujifilm FinePix S2950HD
Lens:EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:7 Jan 2009 - 12:00 AM
Focal Length:6.3mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.1
Aperture:f/3.1
Shutter Speed:1/50sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:64
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Auto, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:cockpit
Username:pics20000 pics20000
Uploaded:14 Nov 2012 - 5:21 PM
Tags:General, Transport/travel
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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41207 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2012 - 10:55 PM

Are you sure this is a Lancaster?
To my knowledge, the Lanc never had fitted dedicated dual controls (only the temporary ones fitted to the pilots controls) and the throttle box is odd (though that may have been retrofitted after it stopped flying). The instrument layout looks wrong too (basic instruments in the centre, rather than in front of the pilot, more for a dual control aircraft than a single pilot), as do the shape of the windscreens.

That aside, it's quite dark because you've tried to get the dark interior balanced with the outside brightness. You can't get both in one shot as the brightness range is too great. Here you'll probably need to take two pictures, one for the cockpit, one for the outside, and combine them later.

Nick

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KarenFB
KarenFB Junior Gallery Team 84282 forum postsKarenFB vcard England163 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 7:09 AM

The lighting has given you problems, but you've caught the inside of the cockpit brilliantly - so many dials and levers!

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Stevefz
Stevefz e2 Member 427 forum postsStevefz vcard England
15 Nov 2012 - 7:59 AM

I'm no expert on Lancaster's but I'm sure I read somewhere that the only remaining lanc flying has dual controlls although this view doesn't look like a Lancaster. I could be wrong though.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 8:40 AM

The lighting has let you down. You needed to switch your flash on and, even with a compact, that would help give an even light in the cockpit and balance the light through the windows. With full camera control you needed to expose for the outside lighting, then use flash to light the controls to the same level.

Paul

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MacroMeister
15 Nov 2012 - 8:44 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Switch the camera to manual mode and use spot metering. Get a light reading for the bright sky and set those setting in manual mode. Then use your flash and adjust the power level on the menu to have enough light to light the cockpit. You will need to do several shots to get it right. You will get a perfect exposure.

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 8:53 AM

Interesting capture.
I've done a mod where I lightened the shadows in increased the contrast.
There is more detail on show now.
Ian

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10868 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2869 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 1:54 PM

Hi Jack, and welcome to the Critique Gallery.

Your exif data above is all messed up, showing Pentax, Fuji and Canon components, so Im going to assume youre actually using the Fuji S2950.

Its quite a good image as it is under what are very challenging conditions for the camera, and its a great image to learn from. Its got good symmetry. and is quite central

As mentioned above, you really have two images which have been taken as one, and the camera has done a good job in exposing to get the lower, more important area quite decent. The two shots are the one throught the window, which the camera would have made darker if it was the only image it was presented with; and the lower area, which the camera would have made brighter if it was only pointed at that. But good compromise. So the learning is that the cameras sensor has a limited dynamic light range, much narrower than the human eye.
If you want to prioritize the lower area, you can force your flash to ON as Paul suggests. Its worth trying for situations like this. theres is a risk with a window of reflection, but these windows are tilted, so should not be a problem.
You also have the ability to improve the detail in the darker area in post processing by reducing shadows; if you can use layers in photoshop, make a layer copy, and change the MODE to screen and then adjust the opacity; use a mask to tidy up.


Ive uploaded a mod with the top highlights toned down, - notice that its impossible to recover blown out detail, - and the bottom has more detail, - and again notice that it is possible to extract detail in shadows, - another learning from this shot.


Hope you find this helpful,


regards


Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 15 Nov 2012 - 1:56 PM

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41207 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 3:41 PM

Having thought about it, it looks more like a Dakota (Douglas DC3, C47, depends where you are!).

Nick

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 6:57 PM

Not a Lanc. Wrong windscreen. More likely DC3 as suggested.

Paul

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pics20000
pics20000 Junior Member 3
15 Nov 2012 - 7:11 PM

thanks everyone i will learn from this.

this was taken along time ago so it was probobly a Dakota, thanks.Grin

thanks for the mods toGrin

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Ploughman
Ploughman  128 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 10:53 PM

Hello Jack,
I also reckon your photo is of a Dakota (DC3) cockpit. Recently I was lucky to get up close and personal to a Lancaster a few weeks ago, and enclose these two shots that I have added to the mods.
There are two Lancasters flying in the world. One in Canada and one here in England. Plus this one I have photographed, at the moment doing ground runs at fairly high speed, it looks and sounds fantastic. After a fairly long talk with the guys `that know` I am given to understand that the long term aim is to get it back into the air. The engines are time expired but airworthy substitutes have been located, delivered to the airfield and paid for. Also the undercarriage units and system are `very tired` and need to be replaced. Finally work may need to be done on the mainspar, I would think that takes priority but do not know how things are progressing.

Richard.

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pics20000
pics20000 Junior Member 3
16 Nov 2012 - 12:54 PM

coolGrin

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drayl002
drayl002  434 forum posts United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
20 Nov 2012 - 5:06 PM

very good advise above!

Still a nice shot when its hard light,

Luke

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