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An evening shot with a hazy sun reflecting on the incoming tide. Not sure if this one works better with the Sun within the shot or cropped out. Opinions would be much appreciated.
Derek

After re-examining both of these I think the mid tones look too dark. Versions 3 and 4 have been adjusted.

Camera:Canon EOS 5D MkII
Lens:EF17-40mm f/4L USM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Coombesgate Bay - Sun in or Sun out?
Username:derekhansen derekhansen
Uploaded:8 Aug 2012 - 7:11 AM
Tags:Coombesgate Bay, Devon, General, Landscape / travel
Votes:43
Variant - TestsVariant - Tests

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andylea
andylea e2 Member 537 forum postsandylea vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 7:23 AM

v1 for me today derek love the moody sky a cracker nice one Wink
andy

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netta1234
netta1234 e2 Member 2101 forum postsnetta1234 vcard Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 7:23 AM

I reallylike them both-Brilliant with great textureSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile
Netta

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paskinmj
paskinmj  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 7:25 AM

V2 slightly edges it for me with the inclusion of the sun.
Matt

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NDODS
NDODS e2 Member 32310 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom96 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 7:39 AM

Definitely out, a rather beautiful and superbly composed low-light long exposure photograph depicting this rather gorgeous coastal landscape.

Regards Nathan

P.S. "Where was this photograph taken?"

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derekhansen
derekhansen e2 Member 5168 forum postsderekhansen vcard United Kingdom19 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 8:06 AM


Quote: Definitely out, a rather beautiful and superbly composed low-light long exposure photograph depicting this rather gorgeous coastal landscape.

Regards Nathan

P.S. "Where was this photograph taken?"

Coombesgate Bay is about 10 minutes walk away from Woolacombe Beach on the North Devon coast.

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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England205 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 8:59 AM

V2 for me Derek,

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HowieR
HowieR  3 United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 9:29 AM

I think V1 is more powerful - great seascape

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 4963 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England129 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 9:54 AM

v1 for me Derek. The sun is a bright patch of cloud which seems out of place with the general tone of the image and it catches the eye a bit too much. It's too close to the top of the frame and to the middle which spoils the natural balance of the scene. Aside from the sun, the tones, details and shapes are excellent.

Dave

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Anna_W
Anna_W  2 United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 1:23 PM

Interesting to see the mixture of opinions on this one Derek Smile It's v2 for me as I think the inclusion of the sun adds to the atmosphere and isn't so dominant as to be distracting - they're both excellent images and the detail and texture are first class.
Regards
Anna

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AnnChown
AnnChown e2 Member 4180 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 1:25 PM

I like v2 Derek but I'm no landscape expert. Trying to find the reason why, I think it's because if the sun is included, it naturally follows that there's the reflection on the water. In v1 the reflection is there and I'm wanting to see the sun. Not sure if this makes any sense.... Smile Yes, definitely v2 (but does that throw the thirds composition out?)! Smile
Ann

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zapar40
zapar40  466 forum posts Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 5:34 PM

i'm with Ann in chooseing v2 as it seems there needs to be the sun for the reflection to lead to, cracking shot too.
ant.

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Tynnwrlluniau
Tynnwrlluniau e2 Member 426 forum postsTynnwrlluniau vcard Wales32 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 7:18 PM

V3 for me Derek. The sun is just to close to the edge of the frame in the first for me Derek. Beautiful comp and the absent sun doesn't bother me.
Alun

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derekhansen
derekhansen e2 Member 5168 forum postsderekhansen vcard United Kingdom19 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2012 - 7:52 PM

Thanks everyone for the your votes and comments. My own opinion borne out by the fairly even split is that both images have separate problems. V1 has a reflection with no source V2 has the source (the sun) but its too high. Conclusion...V2 would work best if the sun was lower in the frame.
Off now to see what everyone else has been up to today.
Derek

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chris-p
chris-p e2 Member 864 forum postschris-p vcard England
8 Aug 2012 - 9:38 PM

V3 for me Derek..

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helenlinda
helenlinda e2 Member 6337 forum postshelenlinda vcard United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
9 Aug 2012 - 6:26 PM

v1 for me too - I like the sun in v2 but would like to see a lot more sky above it.
Helen

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cassiecat
cassiecat  539 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
9 Aug 2012 - 6:49 PM

v3 is my fav. prefer it abit lighter.lesley

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andy_AHG
andy_AHG  5106 forum posts United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
10 Aug 2012 - 4:57 PM

V3 is my preference here. I find the composition less cluttered without the sun and the high contrast suites the mood well.

Andy

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VivienO
VivienO  4 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2012 - 11:12 PM

A fantastic atmospheric shot. My preference is for V2 - I like the sun in the shot and prefer the midtones as shot.
Viv

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Scottishlandscapes
Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 968 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
11 Aug 2012 - 9:55 AM

V4 for me Derek another example of your very detailed photography, it's always a personal choice when it comes down to it, I think the veiled sun gives the reason for the highlights on the sea, without leaves the viewer wondering where the light is coming from.

Dougie

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aquariun
aquariun  2 South Africa
12 Aug 2012 - 8:38 AM

Hi !!!! definitely sun in for me... love the way in catch my eye .... just beautiful ....Smile

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ianrobinson
ianrobinson e2 Member 41106 forum postsianrobinson vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
21 Aug 2012 - 11:10 PM

Great shot, v2 for me.

I can't believe i missed this wonderful place after being there in woolacombe for 7 days last week.

Quite jealous now Wink.

Ian

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Audran
Audran  4 United Kingdom
27 Aug 2012 - 5:02 PM

Amazing image

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