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Well here's a hot potato for those that like their butterflies and moths as I do. This moth is what's known as a Cryptic Burnished Brass (Diachrysia stenochrysitis) and it's the first time I've ever captured one.
It causes quite a lot of controversy amongst UK enthusiasts of the Entomological and Natural History Society, because it's not as yet classified as a species separate from the ordinary Burnished Brass (Diachrysia chrysitis). It is almost 50 years since the suggestion was first made that an additional species may be present within the taxon Diachrysia chrysitis. Following a long investigation, the two species have been definitively distinguished by their morphology, differences in structure of the wings scales, electrophoresis and different male pheromones. So far as it is known, the two species have a similar distribution in Europe, including Britain, however a lot of Lepidopterists are still undecided and if you look in a lot of moth books relating to British species, it's not even listed????

As for me, well I can't be bothered with all the arguments and technicalities, I'm just pleased to have seen one, recorded it and get some shots of the little critter......I'll leave all the arguments to those with much superior knowledge of such issues Tongue

Perhaps that's why it's called a Cryptic because nobody really knows?.......Anyhow hope those interested in such things find this interesting.

Many thanks for all the comments on yesterday's image I posted and for the get well wishes. I have to see the Community Psychiatric Nurse & Doctor on Tuesday and all being well I get then green light to get back to some form of normality and be allowed out to play again Tongue In the meantime, I'll hopefully catch up with what everyone has been up to over the weekend.

Best regards to all.......Ade

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 50D
Lens:Tamron 90mm Sp Di Macro Check out Totally Tamron!
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:23 Aug 2012 - 11:26 AM
Focal Length:90mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/14.0
Shutter Speed:1/15sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Evaluative
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:Cryptic Burnished Brass
Username:Ade_Osman Ade_Osman
Uploaded:25 Aug 2012 - 11:45 AM
Tags:Close-up / macro, Cryptic Burnished Brass, Diachrysia stenochrysitis, Digitally manipulated, Flowers & plants, General, Lepidoptera, Moths, Wildlife / nature
Votes:57
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DeSilver
DeSilver e2 Member 6DeSilver vcard England11 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 11:47 AM

V2 is the one for me but both are indeed very good. Smile


David.

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KarenFB
KarenFB Junior Gallery Team 84245 forum postsKarenFB vcard England161 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 11:49 AM

Beautifully caught and presented! Smile

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4137 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland110 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 11:57 AM

Interesting narrative behind your shots, Ade, which as ever from you are of superb quality and immaculate detail.
If that's a lavender head then one can appreciate the moth's size so well.
Keep well and keep snapping.
Ronnie.

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annettep38
annettep38 e2 Member 3186 forum postsannettep38 vcard France30 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 12:06 PM

n0 2 for me , the peek a-boo pose is so nice.
the y are both great and I hope they mean you are feeling better

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Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman  114484 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 12:27 PM


Quote: If that's a lavender head then one can appreciate the moth's size so well.

Cheers Ronnie, it is indeed a Lavender head as you state, although it was a small one, I suppose the moth itself was about 20mm long with a wingspan of approximately 32-35mm.

Ade

Last Modified By Ade_Osman at 25 Aug 2012 - 12:28 PM

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gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6515 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 12:38 PM

A very interesting and informative write up to accompany a great image here Ad, keep getting better mate. - gary

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Glostopcat
Glostopcat e2 Member 8231 forum postsGlostopcat vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 12:50 PM

Two cracking close up captures of this cryptic critter caught on candid canon camera, you must be chuffed to bits to catch this rare species in one of your traps

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achieverswales
25 Aug 2012 - 12:59 PM

Two stunning captures Ade, right up there with your high standard, have to go for V2 for the cuteness factor, glad your feeling better mate!

Regards

Trev.

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bricurtis
bricurtis e2 Member 91885 forum postsbricurtis vcard England48 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 1:08 PM

Love V1 Ade - it looks beautiful poised on that lavender. Top shot.
I can see why there is a lot of controversy over this species - in Manley's book there are Burnished Brass images that are so varied in colour you would think they were different species. !!
Brian.

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petebfrance
25 Aug 2012 - 1:24 PM

Both lovely. I prefer No 1 as It shows the markings so well.

Pete

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Silverzone
25 Aug 2012 - 2:23 PM

V1 ticks all the boxes, as does your informative write-up. V2 shows him to have a convergent sqint and should be refered to an optition! Sylvia

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EMJAYCEE
EMJAYCEE e2 Member 5EMJAYCEE vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 2:31 PM

Being an ignoramus about these mothy matters I just look and admire - today I smile too at the squinty V2.
Joan.

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Russell_Charles

Tack sharp and lovely saturated colours. Very informative pre-amble

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NDODS
NDODS e2 Member 32810 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom98 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 3:09 PM

Oh how very much I have missed your incredible images.

Regards Nathan

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41018 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England132 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 5:04 PM

Lovely comical expression in v2, Ade. Two good captures whatever they decide it is

Dave

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TonyDy
TonyDy e2 Member 5TonyDy vcard United Kingdom
25 Aug 2012 - 5:40 PM

Absolutely stunning shots, Ade - as good a moth image as I have seen for a long time. Everything works well - colour, background, exposure and sharpness. Well done!
Tony

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8748 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1575 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 7:43 PM

Thankyou for the informative write-up to accompany this unusual moth, and you must be very happy to have at last seen one. V2 is so captivating, it has to be my favourite.

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AnnChown
AnnChown e2 Member 4183 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 8:12 PM

Top notch! Not much else to say - it's just superb! Love it's face in v2 - it almost looks like a bird!
Ann

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Maiwand
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25 Aug 2012 - 8:23 PM

Great shots with the usual most informative narrative Ade. In common with most folks I find V2 the most attractive.
Ron

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rontear
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25 Aug 2012 - 9:15 PM

Thanks Ade for your imput and good to hear your on the mend. Still getting those night visitorsWink I see !! Another beaut.
Ron.

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teocali
teocali e2 Member 6212 forum poststeocali vcard England18 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 9:23 PM

A pair of outstanding macro captures, Ade and both presented to perfection. V1 is stunning - love the detail, textures, tones and wing patterning of this little treasure. V2 has the "cute" factor, peering so coyly over the lavender flower! Great informative narrative too. Hope you are on the mend now Wink
Sylvia

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carper123
carper123 e2 Member 278 forum postscarper123 vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 9:30 PM

Amazing images Ade, absolutely fantastic, the awards are well deserved, v2 for me awesome.
Darryl.SmileSmileSmile

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Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman  114484 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 9:39 PM

Cheers one and all......


Quote: Still getting those night visitors

Just wait till you see the videos of both the Hedgehogs & the Moths in the garden........Hoping to soon have both videos on YouTube and a live webcam up and running, just having one or two technical problems with it all and to be fair I haven't really been able to get my head around it recently due to my health.......But I'm now on the case, so watch this space for details as they say Smile

Special thanks to Silverzone, TonyDy & Teocali's UA, muchly appreciated as always.....

Ade

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Chinga
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25 Aug 2012 - 11:48 PM

Very pretty little fellow... Love the full facial on V2. IB

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Louise_Morris
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26 Aug 2012 - 5:23 AM


Quote: Top notch! Not much else to say - it's just superb! Love it's face in v2 - it almost looks like a bird!
Ann

I'm with Ann on these two Ade! Sorry I'm late with this thought I'd posted & voted last night! Lou

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jasonrwl
jasonrwl e2 Member 430 forum postsjasonrwl vcard United Kingdom5 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 9:25 AM

Very interesting indeed Ade - and of course a cracking image as always. Glad you are feeling better.
Jason

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ChiliMan
ChiliMan e2 Member 7135 forum postsChiliMan vcard Singapore17 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 1:37 PM

First off, SERIOUS congrats on this first capture of this beaut, Ade SmileSmileSmileSmile

Second, both are fantastic shots but V1 is totally stellar. And the little fella is only 2cm long!

Loved reading the write-up, by the way.

Andrew

PS Hope all goes well on Tuesday.

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nutmeg66
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26 Aug 2012 - 8:53 PM

I very much like V1.

Would be nice to get the issue resolved. At the moment I just note each form separately.

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