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dartford sitting on my branch.

Camera:Canon 10 D
Lens:400mm
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:dartford warbler 2
Username:Jason_Bonsey Jason_Bonsey
Uploaded:12 Nov 2010 - 11:56 AM
Tags:Birds, Wildlife / nature
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mikesmith
mikesmith e2 Member 945 forum postsmikesmith vcard United Kingdom35 Constructive Critique Points
12 Nov 2010 - 12:11 PM

A lovely capture. Only cc I could offer would be for a tighter crop...maybe just a little bit too much space in this?
Mike

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cyman1964uk
cyman1964uk e2 Member 5cyman1964uk vcard United Kingdom
12 Nov 2010 - 12:29 PM

Yes, I agree about the space, but stunning nonetheless! Would vote, but it doesn't seem possible for this pic.

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CathR
CathR  7139 forum posts United Kingdom563 Constructive Critique Points
12 Nov 2010 - 2:15 PM

He looks a bit thin and vulnerable, about to fall off your perch, Jason ? As they are such small birds even with a 400mm lens they are not going to fill the frame. Cropping seems the only answer.

It's a beautiful shot with the grey of the feathers matched by the branch and the background.

Best wishes

Catherine

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10777 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2781 Constructive Critique Points
12 Nov 2010 - 3:58 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

This is a really nice shot, and a great example that shows more pixels doesnt necessarily = better images.

Its sharp, well focused and a lovely pose.

I agree that the composition is better with a square crop, as this places the bird on a third nicely, and provides a very attractive composition.

I have little to add apart from the crop in the mod Ive uploaded, and increasing contrast a little as the light was likely a little flat at the time of shooting. Ive added height also for optimal placement of the bird.


Good work, and I hope this helps,



regards



Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 12 Nov 2010 - 3:59 PM

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f8  109169 forum posts England22 Constructive Critique Points
12 Nov 2010 - 8:07 PM

A great shot Jason, large is best.

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Philo
Philo e2 Member 464 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
12 Nov 2010 - 9:15 PM

An excellent shot with the bird very sharp against a lovely blurred background.
Like everyone else I feel a crop is necessary though. I opted to crop 3 sides such that the bird was placed in the upper third looking into the image and the branch emerged from the corner. Like Willie I thought the lighting was flat so I adjusted levels to increase light and contrast. Finally I cloned out the little speck in the bottom left corner.
Superb work though.
Phil

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Jestertheclown
13 Nov 2010 - 12:08 AM

This really is an excellent shot amnd probably can't be much improved upon.
However since we're all trying, here's my slant on it!
I've just slightly tweaked the levels and upped the contrast slightly to give it a lift and like Phil, I've gone for a three-sided crop.
Someone suggested re. one of my recent birds of prey uploads that birds should be facing from left to right in images so now, this one is too!

Hope you don't mind.

Bren.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom840 Constructive Critique Points
13 Nov 2010 - 9:18 AM

Very, very nice. Lots of suggestions - this is NH record, not pictorialism - just needs to be bigger in the frame, either when taking (difficult) or by crop.

Paul

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
13 Nov 2010 - 10:26 PM

hello, i would not agree with the above. the bird should never be taken too large in frame.

the reason for this is that when projected, or printed large for exhibition purposes the bird should be proportional within frame and this is most noticable in A3 prints. if the bird is larger than life at this print size, the image looks so unnatural its untrue so when shooting always keep the background as uncluttered and pictorial as possible, even show the habitat a little but dont make the bird too large. you can always crop back in post processing for web use where the bird will only be viewed on a computer monitor at lower resolution.

You have managed to expose the bird well, no doubt assisted by the fact that the background is close to 18% grey to suit the metering, otherwise spot metering is favourite. the sharpness you have acheived is in fact quite commendable.

i like the pose and the fact that the feet are included but the only issue i have is that i would have liked to see both eyes.

would it be accepted in an international-- possibly not as the current trend is to have birds or other subjects doing something slightly out of the ordinary in recognisable natural habitat. a few years ago pictorial too precidence but since the increase in popularity of digital and all the advantages that it brought, standards have risen dramatically.
Phil

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom840 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2010 - 10:12 PM

What?

Size is relative to viewing distance. The image on a wall (or screen) appears thus sized depending on how far it is viewed from.

Have you never seen an exhibition print where the subject was larger than actual life size! Most insect close up shots show the critter much larger than life size!

I really cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Paul

Last Modified By paulbroad at 14 Nov 2010 - 10:16 PM

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Jason_Bonsey
Jason_Bonsey e2 Member 6Jason_Bonsey vcard United Kingdom
15 Nov 2010 - 8:48 PM

thankyou phil ,but seeing both eyes would not be a side profile of this subject?

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Cor
Cor  5 Belgium
17 Nov 2010 - 6:52 PM

Superb +++++
cor

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