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Shot in the narrow winding back streets of Varanasi.

Cropped to put the man on the right's face and eyes on a third.

It was morning and the light was nice.

I've uploaded the original too.

Thanks for looking

Elaine Grin

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D3100 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:12 Feb 2013 - 3:45 AM
Focal Length:50mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/5.7
Aperture:f/7.1
Shutter Speed:1/160sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:400
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Auto
Title:Deep In Thought
Username:WeeGeordieLass WeeGeordieLass
Uploaded:17 May 2013 - 8:05 PM
Tags:General, Landscape / travel, Portraits / people
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paulbroad
paulbroad  782 forum posts United Kingdom872 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2013 - 8:17 PM

I think you have over done it this time. The colours of the original are more natural, just a touch flat. The conversion is pretty good on the main figure but the increase in contrast has made the rest of the image too bright.

Paul

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2346 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
17 May 2013 - 8:27 PM

Hi Paul,

Yes I agree............I've just looked at the shot again in Elements and tried reducing the brightness and I can see now that I've gone a bit over the top this time.

Thanks for your advice.

Elaine Grin

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mrswoolybill Critique Team 8481 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1072 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2013 - 9:16 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

This has the look of a cinema poster - the leading man isolated against a hazy supporting cast. Which would be fine if that was what you wanted, but I don't think you did want that.
I like what you have captured, the balance between three heads (the guy in the background is important). As a composition and a street image it's brilliant but the processing takes it too far from reality and into that world of the cinema poster. And I do prefer reality.
Moira

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2346 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
17 May 2013 - 10:19 PM

Hi Moira,

Thanks for the mod and your great advice. You're right, I definitely didn't want the cinema poster look Tongue

It's back to the drawing board with this one, so thanks for pointing me in the right direction Smile

Your help and advice is much appreciated.

Cheers

Elaine Grin

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banehawi Critique Team 10933 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2945 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2013 - 11:32 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The original shot is wonderful, and you know youve overdone the mod. The mod is very close to an HDR image, in that all blacks are lifted, and all whites are subdued. The crop is good. I love the man and the kid in the background. The main character literally jumps off the image.

Keep in mind when you modify an image, what it is you want to achieve, and also keep in ind that the finished product should look reasonably "normal", as in as shot, if the conditions were perfect.

The area to focus on here is the man on the right. His face is underexposed. And that really all you need to focus on. When his face is exposed a little more, - not a whole lot, his eyes will appear a little lighter, and you will see natural catchlights there that you can enhance.


Ive used the original for mods, loaded 2 different tones in each. The images are straightened, which required the addition of space at the top.

If you like, I will provide a step by step description of what Ive done if you dont feel comfortable with it. Be positive too, youve discovered HDR al by yourself!



Regards


Willie

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iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
18 May 2013 - 8:53 AM

Another good one. I really like this image and and don't mind your processing. The idea that the pensive man should stand out poster like fits with composition and other people in the image. He appears to be sitting in front of the scene with everything else secondary.
Willies second mod works well for me.
That's how i look at this picture. As said it's really down to you to present the image in a way you want.
regards
Ian

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2346 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
18 May 2013 - 4:35 PM

Hi Willie,

Thanks for your mods.

I've had trouble with this one. When I set the black and white points I noticed that there was a large difference when I clicked the black dropper on the man's hair, then I clicked the white dropper on various white areas but couldn't get it right.............and the result as you said above was lifted blacks and subdued whites.

I've tried again to try and produce a version with similar tones to your mod 2, but my version just looks flat.

I'd be grateful for any more advice you could give.

Thanks

Elaine Grin

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2346 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
18 May 2013 - 4:38 PM

Hi Ian,

Thanks for your advice. I'm glad you like the composition. It was just a quick grab shot, but I'm really pleased with it.

Just got to get the processing right........I think it's worth taking time to get it right.

Thanks Ian

Elaine Grin

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pamelajean Critique Team 8806 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1636 Constructive Critique Points
18 May 2013 - 5:15 PM

This is a great shot, Elaine, and I hope you are eventually happy with your processing, based on the advice above.
One little thing I noticed was that the hand of the man with the beard is drawing my eye. It is quite dark and almost in focus, as well as being right next to your subject's head, and so I thought I would do a modification where I lightened it with the dodge tool and then softened it.
Pamela.

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2346 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
20 May 2013 - 3:53 PM

Hi Pamela,

Thanks for your advice. I hadn't noticed the hand but now that you mention it............yes, I think it does need some attention.

Cheers

Elaine Grin

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