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There were 3 reasons for snapping this image:

1: As a sign to show that Summer has come, and with horrible intense heat, 40 45 Degrees Sad. No Flowers Sad )
2: It has been quite a time since i got round to flower photography ( Again, No Flowers Sad )
3: I was always said that You snap beautiful flowers so the image looks good. I was hurt and decided to give ago on the most dry flower in my garden )

I snapped it on Manual mode and am sincerely hoping that i didnt forget anything which i was taught by those excellent comments few weeks back Smile

I ' may ' get comments on background but i ( for the first time ) im ok with it. I mean its kind of contrasting, that muddy brown and deep green
( Doesn't mean i wont tolerate any comments on that. Please feel free to comment Smile )

Any Critique & Comment will be gladly welcomed Smile Smile

I find that small bud just beneath the main petals a bit of distraction point but i was clearly unavoidable while snapping the image and i can only do basics in Post Processing

Brand:Sony
Camera:Sony Cyber-shot HX9V
Lens:sony lens g
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:27 Apr 2014 - 3:38 PM
Focal Length:4.3mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.3
Aperture:f/3.3
Shutter Speed:1/1250sec
Exposure Comp:-1.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Program AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Auto, Did not fire
White Balance:Cloudy
Title:Deprived... :(
Username:IshanPathak IshanPathak
Uploaded:28 Apr 2014 - 3:52 PM
Votes:Voting Disabled

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KarenFB
KarenFB Junior Gallery Team 84283 forum postsKarenFB vcard England163 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2014 - 4:35 PM

The main star of the image does look very sad and dying (your processing has accentuated that), yet there is a promise of more to come with the young bud below.

I know we'd like it to be a little warmer.............but 40 - 45 is a little too hot for me!!

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dark_lord
dark_lord Critique Team 101475 forum postsdark_lord vcard England130 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2014 - 4:50 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Ishan,

I don't find the bud particularly distracting, especially a many of the petals are past their best. That is not to say you shouldn't have taken it, far from it, I have seen John provide links to a photographer who takes great images of dead or dying flowers.

You broght up the subject of the background - perfectly in keeping with its environment and not fighting for attention with the main subject, so well done.
I would tone down the green as that is rather vibrant. I reduced the yellow and green saturation using the Hue/Saturation dialog. ther should be something similar in your software.

Your off-centre positioning provides a nice balance but this shouts out 'square crop' as it's a single circular flower head. Both versions valid, just saying be aware of alternatives.

The main issue for me is the extreme contrast. Some flowers can take it, most can't, and there are large areas of the flower itself that ar complete black and devoid of detail.
This may be due to your processing, but the light has not helped.
I accept that you do get very harsh light but for a small subject such as a flower it should be straight forward to cast a shadow over it with you body or by shading it with a piece of card for example so that the flower is lit only by light reflected form the surroundings which will be softer.

I tried to reduce the contrast and bring out what shadow detail may be there in just the flowerhead to give you an idea but the image on here is small so you should manage better on your full size original.
Unfortunately the saturation has changed on upload.

Keith

Last Modified By dark_lord at 28 Apr 2014 - 4:52 PM

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IshanPathak
IshanPathak e2 Member 86 forum postsIshanPathak vcard India11 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2014 - 4:57 PM

Thank You so much Karen and Keith Smile

Keith: Yep, i was noticing that only, i got the idea of what you wanted me to do but the flower was looking quite desaturated. I mean it literally ' died ' Grin. Well thank you so much for your excellent critique and mod Smile

I agree about the Square Crop but i have been trying to save as much clarity as i can so i'm trying to minimise cropping Sad

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have seen John provide links to a photographer who takes great images of dead or dying flowers.


I didnt get that? Or am i missing something very obvious?

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dark_lord
dark_lord Critique Team 101475 forum postsdark_lord vcard England130 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2014 - 5:10 PM

This has been mentioned on other images so you may have nissed it. His name is John Blakemore
Jonh Blakemore

Keith

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mrswoolybill Critique Team 7436 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1024 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2014 - 5:34 PM

I like the way you have gone in close and placed the subject off-centre. That creates an interesting effect, intimate but indirect.

I would slightly reduce saturation on magentas, which recovers a bit more detail from the textures of the petals. But the main problem for me is the greens. Green is a tricky colour to capture and convey digitally. Digital sensors struggle a bit with all the more acidic colours, but there's a problem also in the way we perceive the colour. Looking at sunlit grass we see vibrancy and life; on a screen the same colour looks garish and brash.

The problem is usually the yellow element. Reduce saturation on yellows and your greens suddenly look a lot more reticent.

That is important here because the green is background, and the whole point of a background is that it should be just that. It should sit back quietly and not jump forward at the eye - which is what is happening here.

I shall upload a Mod in a little while. I go with the idea of a square crop - not-quite-square looks a bit flabby and unsatisfactory to my eye, square is somehow contained in feeling. But I shall keep the flower off-centre.
Moira

Last Modified By mrswoolybill at 28 Apr 2014 - 5:36 PM

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10869 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2869 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2014 - 6:42 PM

You didnt need the -1 Ishan. Left as-is could have been the best choice.


The rest is down to your software and your personal preference. As mentioned, over-saturated. This can actually be measured, as I mentioned before, but your post processing tools wont help you.

Try look for a used copy of Photoshop Elements that out of date, - version 13 is current, so 10 or 11 should be cheap if you can get a copy. Its worthwhile, though you will have a learning curve.

Uploaded a mod, just something different.



regards


Willie

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