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This is one from earlier in the summer. A location I will visit again, but I wasn't really "in the mood" this was the evening after the Forth series, another day with a lot of Driving - besides I was on a high after the Forth series - so this was a bit of an anti climax.

I must look at the file again as I'm sure there are a couple of others lurking.

Camera:Nikon D80 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:Sigma 10-20
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Dunnottar Castle
Username:Nick_w Nick_w
Uploaded:15 Oct 2008 - 9:43 AM
Tags:Dunnotar castle, General, Landscape / travel, Ne scotland, Sonehaven
Votes:68
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jdenman
jdenman  6 Spain5 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 9:55 AM

Very nice composition and colours.
John

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Dead_habits
15 Oct 2008 - 9:56 AM

Nice light1

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dwarf
dwarf  652 forum posts United Kingdom
15 Oct 2008 - 10:00 AM

lovely conposition with great light
dorothy

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DaveU
DaveU e2 Member 81339 forum postsDaveU vcard England121 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 10:01 AM

Not a bad pic by a long chalk. The light is good and it looks like a very photogenic location. Just your compostion does'nt convince me here. It has that hurried "well I'm here so I'll rattle off a few shots" sort of a look to it.

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 10:04 AM

The problem Dave was the Camera was on the other side of the fence, I couldn't / Wouldn't climb over (theres about a 200FT drop), but you could be right, I wasn't really in the right mind set that day.

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newy17
newy17  8273 forum posts United Kingdom
15 Oct 2008 - 10:07 AM

Beautiful Light Nick and nicely captured,,
ian

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chase
chase Critique Team 91118 forum postschase vcard England240 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 10:22 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I love the light Nick but that big rock on the right of the frame spoils the view for me..maybe a portrait crop with it chopped off ?
I think a little stroll (?) down that pathway between the fences could have given you a better viewpoint but I wouldn't fancy the 200ft drop either !

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 10:27 AM


Quote: I think a little stroll (?) down that pathway between the fences could have given you a better viewpoint but I wouldn't fancy the 200ft drop either !

...LOL

After Dunstanburgh & Saltwick I've started to be a little more ..erm ..sensible ! - oops Just forgot about the visit to the beech here about 15 mins before this was taken ...oh well Leopard and spots comes to mind !

Tho its a location I hope to revisit as there are far more opportunities there, but its a 7 hour drive from home, so always a bit tired when I get there.

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NeilM
NeilM e2 Member 7NeilM vcard England
15 Oct 2008 - 10:43 AM

well taken image, like this a lot.

Neil

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ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014794 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 10:49 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

good use of a couple of strong lead lines here Nick, though I can't help feeling that the right of the shot is left lookng a little vacant because of the position of the right fence.

it's starting from between the middle and the right 1/3, which makes my eye focus on everything to the left of the fence - leaving the right of the fence a little irrelevent.

I'd probably go for a more square looking crop, maybe try cropping where the hilll on the right side starts to steeply slope?

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 11:02 AM

I think Janet & Ade are right (tho the fence starts exactly on the 1/3rd Ade) - Tho I'm sure there are better images to be had there when/if I go back. Personally if I'd had more chance a framing properly I wouldn't have broken the horizon with the castle, either above or below, Dave pretty much summed up my feelings that day..which is why it sat on the hard drive for months.

Last Modified By Nick_w at 15 Oct 2008 - 11:04 AM

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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England209 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 11:23 AM

Like the lighting and details in this Nick great tones too - however do agree with some of the comments above with regards to the comp - your eyes seem to be drawn away to the right and not in to the main part of the image.
Still great location.
Regards Richard.

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angej
angej  9477 forum posts United Kingdom
15 Oct 2008 - 12:08 PM

Nice light here Nick but Im thinking the composition doesn't really stand upSmile
Ange

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 12:25 PM

Thanks everyone, and yes I agree with the crop comments, sometimes you don't spot the obvious in your own work!

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 12:44 PM

composition issues apart, the colours, lighting and sky are lovely, regarding the composition, i dont think its too bad, it had a strong lead in and the eye cant settle on anything but the castle. sometimes we have to accept what is there is the best we can compose, but i think i may have used a longer lens and concentrated on the main point of interest which is the castle, its just fashionable these days for everything to have a powerful 10mm lead in but its not essential for a strong image,
the idea of a square crop, inline with the fence post is not such a bad idea, but would be a trade off against that lovely sky.
i like it for what it is, a very good record.
Phil

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 12:51 PM

Good point Phil, when I took this I only had the 10-20, but Ive since invested in a 24-70 which I would have used, it was one of the reasons for buying the new lens.

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JohnParminter
15 Oct 2008 - 1:25 PM

I think there are other compositions to be had at Dunnottar Nick, although mine are probably not a good example of better. I've looked at this point for a comp as well but always had the Sun casting my shadow. I reckon if you were to move forward to where the lhs fencs veers off you can get a good lead in with just the rhs fence and it may give a less complicated lead in?.
The grass hill to the right if you walk around the path for 200/300 yards provides a good view point overlooking the cliffs with much more view of the bay below and makes the castle stand out more.
There are also possibilities at beach level either side especially at dawn with plenty of exposed rocks and pools at low tide for fg interest.
I've a few more of Dunnottar that I may upload from the hillside viewpoint.
This shot I like the colours especially the light on the fg grass and the sky.
John

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 1:31 PM

John I explored both the ones you mentioned, but wasn't happy with what I had on the card. I will be revisiting tho, and have a few ideas. Thanks for the comments It all helps.

Cheers

Nick

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LesF
LesF e2 Member 7176 forum postsLesF vcard 8 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 1:38 PM

Forget the already mentioned Nick the pluses for me are the sky and some nice evening light.

LesF

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Keith-Mckevitt
15 Oct 2008 - 2:43 PM

Gorgeous colours and lighting. Well composed and taken. Could be picky about the comp but I feel the overall image is too good for that.
Keith

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MikeH
MikeH  9217 forum posts England4 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 5:44 PM

Would have liked to have a go at this but I'm off on the west coast in a few days,

Mike

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GlynnisFrith
GlynnisFrith e2 Member 7GlynnisFrith vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 6:26 PM

Well I think the light & the sky are super, but I can see where they are coming from about the comp

Glynnis

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 6:56 PM

Thanks everyone

I've just uploaded a crop as per the suggestions from Janet & Ade.

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JohnParminter
15 Oct 2008 - 8:06 PM

I think the two fences are a wee bit too much of a lead in and competing for attention away from the castle. I find I'm looking at the fences and grass more than the castle.
Hard to please aren't we..Wink
Still prefer the wider one.Smile
John

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73852 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2008 - 8:15 PM

LOL at John, know what you meen. I wasn't happy at the time with two fences, all for Safety reasons don't think of us togs ! tho I still think the location has a lot of potential.

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