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Back from Turkey this morning so I'm afraid I may be bombarding you with holiday pics and Megan may feature in a few of themWink
A couple of versions offered here with Megan basking in some lovely warm light on the pier.
Your feedback will be greatly appreciated as always. Would be interested in whether white balance looks okay; to me this is how she appeared on the night.
Phil

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D90 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:50.0 mm f/1.8
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:14 Aug 2012 - 7:37 PM
Focal Length:50mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/1.7
Aperture:f/5.6
Shutter Speed:1/50sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Auto
Title:Evening Light
Username:Philo Philo
Uploaded:24 Aug 2012 - 10:06 AM
Tags:Kusadasi, Portraits / people, Sunset, Turkey
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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10826 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2830 Constructive Critique Points
24 Aug 2012 - 11:05 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Phil, shes becoming more relaxed posing, - maybe the vacation effect!


Both nice shots. I used ACR to check WB in both, and I was surprised that in both cases it warmed the tone!

Apart from that, cropped and added space for a 10 X 8 aspect ratio, lightened eyes a little.

With a setting Sun, its like a studio shot with a gold reflector, or a coloured gel, so white balance should retain the colour cast, rather than lose it.




Regards



Willie

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Sooty_1 Critique Team 41197 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
24 Aug 2012 - 11:57 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The WB looks fine...it is a warm summer evening sun on healthy young skin, its lovely light. The shooting is ok and Megan looks more comfortable posing, it just needs a little better direction. A few things with each shot..

V1..nice light, but maybe better to turn her slightly more toward it, so her face is more evenly lit. I don't like the shoreline running through her head, just water would be better and a wider aperture (giving faster shutter speed too, say f/2.8 and 1/200) which would also have blurred the water more. Eye contact would be more arresting.

V2...similar comments again, re the direction. The background is less intrusive and more contextual, and doesn't run through her ears, though a wider aperture again would be better, for me.

The main issue though, is Megan's stance. It looks uncomfortable - her left side is rigid and her right is loose. For a 3/4 stance, it is better to have her weight on the back foot (her right) which would avoid the unnatural curve of the leg and stop her looking like she's leaning back. It puts the feet closer together in shot and makes a more natural pose. Also, it might be better for her to have her right hand on her hip and have her left hand down the front of her thigh which avoids bunched fingers and is more flattering to a lady's figure.

Exposure, focussing and processing are fine.

Nick

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Philo e2 Member 471 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 6:40 AM

Hi Willie, thanks as always for the mods. I'm not certain but I may have toned down the warmth a touch in processing, I wil check later. Anyway, you have answered my question so hopefully I can trust wb on the other shots. Out of interest, how did you check in acr?
Cheers,
Phil

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Philo e2 Member 471 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 6:58 AM

Thanks for the detailed critique, Nick. On both shots I think I could have got away with a wider aperture (v2 at f/2.8 I think). To be honest I struggle directing Megan: she tends to respond quite negatively to suggestions so I have to tread carefully. The sun falls like a stone so we only have a short window of opportunity. What I tend to do is get her in position and tell her to do what she wants to start with. I encourage her to have fun and then try things as she relaxes.
I do have many more shots and hopefully some that answer your suggestions. This was at the start of the holiday so we were just warming upWink
Phil

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paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom850 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 7:57 AM

I have no problem with the lighting on either, but both are a bit too contrived - over posed. V1 looses out on the lack of eye contact and v2, it's the pose. You need props. A post to lean on, an oar to hold upright, a bollard to sit on. Just standing there doesn't look relaxed to me. Technically as usual - very good.

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Philo e2 Member 471 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 9:05 AM

Thanks, Paul, your honesty is appreciated as always. I will sort out something for her to sit on in the next oneWink
Phil

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banehawi Critique Team 10826 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2830 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 10:56 PM

I right clicked the shot in bridge, clicked open in Camera Raw, then use the white balance tool to select a neutral area. Theres some grey and white areas around the flowers on her top, - used those.



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Philo e2 Member 471 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 11:17 PM

Yes I have used that technique several times, Willie, I just can't always decide what should be neutral.

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