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I took this on Friday at Pett Level. It's really about the sky but I hope that the grandson and rod set it off reasonably well (taken with a polariser). Grandad is out of shot on this one. Does it matter that the little boy is in the centre?
Thanks for looking and for any comments and/or criticisms.
A big thank you to Mark (marktc) for his UA for Tracking yesterday - very exciting and much appreciated!
Another boiling hot day here with nothing to do but laze around. It's far too hot to even think of going outside!
Ann

Camera:Canon EOS 60D
Lens:Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5DCMacroAsp.IF HSM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:17 Aug 2012 - 11:19 AM
Focal Length:17mm
Aperture:f/13
Shutter Speed:1/200sec
ISO:100
Title:Fishing with grandad
Username:AnnChown AnnChown
Uploaded:19 Aug 2012 - 10:44 AM
Tags:Beach, Clouds, Fishing, Landscape / travel, Portraits / people, Seaside, Sports / action
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morpheus1955
morpheus1955 e2 Member 7morpheus1955 vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Aug 2012 - 10:56 AM

Fantastic image Ann, great composition, and what a fabulous sky

Hugh

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CarolG
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:05 AM

A wonderful sky, Ann, and a grand composition. Good to hear you have summer at last, rather late coming Sad Carol

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annettep38
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:14 AM

he is fine in the center of attention.
great sky, too.

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Badgerfred
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:18 AM

Nice scene Ann, it's a beautiful sky,
Fred.

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Joline
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:19 AM

I didn't even notice he was centered because of the balance with the pole. A really fine image.

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Tibetan
Tibetan  2 England
19 Aug 2012 - 11:26 AM

No it does not matter! you have reversed the one third two thirds method, to two thirds one third! balances out as far as I am concerned, regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

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christinecilia
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:32 AM

lovely shot like the boy in it set it off great sky.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

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woolybill1
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:41 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

It's all about balance, Ann, and it balances reasonably well. There is more interest in the water to the right than to the left.
However, a 10:8 crop removing a little from the right would concentrate on the more interesting sky to which the rod is pointing, while leaving some space around the little boy.
A touching image in any format.
Regards
Bill

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digital_boi
19 Aug 2012 - 11:44 AM

a nice blue sky and full of wispy clouds

GrahamGrinGrinGrin

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EAS
EAS  5 Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
19 Aug 2012 - 11:44 AM

The image balances perfectly as far as I can see. Wonderful comp and that's a superb sky.

Ann

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SlowSong
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:46 AM

What lovely clouds. They look as if they've been painted on with a light hand. The slightly quirky crop is both attractive and unsettling at the same time. Smile
It looks so cool and lovely there, much better than in my hot, hot garden in deepest Ilford.
x

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mrswoolybill
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:47 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Rather lovely. He and the fishing rod are leaning towards each other, that's what makes it work for me.
I would look for a tighter crop, maybe square, but as an alternative not an improvement; it would lose some of the breadth of the sky but accentuate its height.
Moira

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AnnChown
AnnChown e2 Member 4183 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Aug 2012 - 12:00 PM

Thanks for the crop recommendations - both the square and the 10:8 work much much better!! Thanks Bill and Moira! Smile

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marktc
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19 Aug 2012 - 12:03 PM

Ann, this is another wonderful image as Moira and Bill say it balances well and the child being in the centre isn't noticeable. The eye is drawn from the foreground by the fishing rod to those wonderful sky, you polariser really did a great job for you.

Overall a terrific image.

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CaroleS
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19 Aug 2012 - 12:19 PM

I am just amazed at that sky - a lovely comp.
Carole

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achieverswales
19 Aug 2012 - 12:32 PM

Love it Ann, excellent exposure and as your Grandson is looking into the frame even better, I would hate to crop and loose any of that awesome sky, I would crop the sky and keep in a folder to replace featureless sky's though.

Regards

Trev.

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Scottishlandscapes
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19 Aug 2012 - 12:41 PM

For me your composition is fine Ann, the sky is so good it keeps my mind busy. I quite like Bill's idea of the crop, it would emphasise the sky even more than your filter has.

Nice work, didn't realise you had a grandson.

Dougie

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AnnChown
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19 Aug 2012 - 12:42 PM


Quote: Love it Ann, excellent exposure and as your Grandson is looking into the frame even better, I would hate to crop and loose any of that awesome sky, I would crop the sky and keep in a folder to replace featureless sky's though.

Regards

Trev.

Just for the record, Trev - he's not mine... - but a willing model we came across on the beach! SmileSmile
and thanks for the suggestion of keeping the sky!!

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19 Aug 2012 - 12:43 PM


Quote: For me your composition is fine Ann, the sky is so good it keeps my mind busy. I quite like Bill's idea of the crop, it would emphasise the sky even more than your filter has.

Nice work, didn't realise you had a grandson.

Dougie

I don't!! No children either!!! SmileSmileSmile I probably didn't explain it clearly - see my comment to Trev above!

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Scottishlandscapes
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19 Aug 2012 - 12:47 PM

I misunderstood your caption, sorry for that Ann. Even better that yu found him rather than took him to the beach.

You looked far too young in your image anyway.Wink

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RonnieAG
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19 Aug 2012 - 12:55 PM

Your composition works for me just fine, Ann. Can't really add much to what has already ben said.
Nice one.
Ronnie.

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AnnChown
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19 Aug 2012 - 1:06 PM


Quote:
You looked far too young in your image anyway.Wink

Now you're heading in the right direction Dougie! Smile

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19 Aug 2012 - 2:34 PM

Others have given opinions re cropping, etc. Not a landscape person--so I will just say the crisp, clean image works well -- the sky being superb and not at all diminished by the inclusion of the child and equipment!

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banehawi
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19 Aug 2012 - 3:18 PM

Lovely shot. Bills crop suggest would work well.


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Niknut
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19 Aug 2012 - 3:58 PM

Cracking shot !!....beautiful quality, with a terrific sky !!!!

I think the format & framing are fine....though there is a sneaky little trick that might add a little something ???...but it ain't
up for mods....so I'll keep you guessing !!.GrinGrin

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AnnChown
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19 Aug 2012 - 4:21 PM


Quote: Cracking shot !!....beautiful quality, with a terrific sky !!!!

I think the format & framing are fine....though there is a sneaky little trick that might add a little something ???...but it ain't
up for mods....so I'll keep you guessing !!.GrinGrin

Come on Keith - spill the beans! I've opened it up for mods, just for you!! SmileSmileSmile You know I wouldn't be able to resist...

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WhiteRose1
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19 Aug 2012 - 4:33 PM

Tremendous sky, Ann, and an excellent triangle formed by the rod and child. I've tried several crops and they all seem to work mainly because of the strength of the image in the first place.

Dave

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franken
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19 Aug 2012 - 4:37 PM

Lovely composition Ann.

Ken

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Niknut
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19 Aug 2012 - 4:53 PM

GrinGrinGrinGrin !!!....you temptress !!!!!.Grin

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AnnChown
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19 Aug 2012 - 5:03 PM

Go for it Keith! Smile

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Niknut
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19 Aug 2012 - 5:45 PM

OK !!....uploaded my mod. for your consideration...........

Basically I've moved the lad to the right a bit, to balance the composition a wee bit....but I've also 'enlarged' him somewhat, to make him
a little more prominent in the shot, but more importantly for his head & shoulders to 'break' the horizon-line......??????

Not meant as a criticism !!....I'm just trying to make a lovely shot have a little more impact.....without altering the layout or cropping !!.Smile

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helenlinda
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19 Aug 2012 - 5:51 PM

Lots of advice here Ann - but a wonderful sky whatever SmileSmile
Helen

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AnnChown
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19 Aug 2012 - 6:01 PM

That works really well Keith! I like it that he's a bit bigger - it adds a lot more impact !! thanks so much for your time SmileSmile

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19 Aug 2012 - 6:10 PM

The bot in the centre of the image is OK. For me it has been off balanced by the rods which draw the eye up into the sky. The boy fills what wouls have been an empty space.

Regards.

Gavin

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fentiger
fentiger e2 Member 13915 forum postsfentiger vcard England22 Constructive Critique Points
19 Aug 2012 - 6:37 PM

Where's Grandad? Wink Good use of the wide angle to achieve this fine composition but I think the tighter crop, as suggested, would improve the image. Great sky by the way.

Albert

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ChiliMan
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19 Aug 2012 - 6:48 PM

I am in love with that sky.

As for composition, there are all these Ďrulesí. Most times they work, sometimes they donít. I think you should go with your gut and your eye. Howís that for weird biology?? Grin

Iíve done two mods, both square crops, just for the heck of it Smile

The first mod is oriented to the left as I wanted to preserve as much as possible of the sky on the left Ďcos itís more beautiful (to me) than the sky on the right.

The second mod addresses the fishing rod and shoots the handle into the bottom left corner. Unfortunately, some LH side sky gets sacrificed.

All that aside, this is a thoroughly wonderful image, Ann Smile

Andrew

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ChiliMan
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19 Aug 2012 - 6:49 PM

OOPS! The second mod uploaded is the wrong one!! Don't know how to delete it Sad

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19 Aug 2012 - 6:52 PM

Ok...second mod uploaded. If you can find a way of deleting the 'mismod', please do so! SO embarrassing Smile

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AnnChown
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19 Aug 2012 - 6:59 PM

Andrew - I think your mod 2 (or 3 if you count the upload of you Smile!!) works best. As you say, the composition is better but it sacrifices the lovely sky. As far as going with my gut is concerned, I think my original hasn't worked as I do think a crop is necessary and really improves the image! Smile
Thanks so much for 'having a go'! Smile
Ann

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19 Aug 2012 - 8:07 PM

Ann,
You have received some interesting comments and suggestions. The sky is fantastic and I don't think the boy being in the middle is an issue particularly because of the position of the rod and rest.
Cliff

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19 Aug 2012 - 9:56 PM

Wonderful sky and a nice narrative going on in this image, Ann. Excellent.
Alun

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fentiger
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19 Aug 2012 - 11:20 PM

Had a look and thought I would try a mono conversion.

Albert

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Ray42
Ray42  6 England3 Constructive Critique Points
20 Aug 2012 - 6:58 AM

A great shot - love the comp - a great sky and the boy leaning towards the rod full of anticipation of a bit - some excellent mods and critique especially from our friends the woolybills

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20 Aug 2012 - 7:31 AM

I wondered whether a b&w would work but as I'm so hopeless at converting to mono I dismissed the idea! So thanks for your mono conversion Albert. I think it works, don't you?
Ann

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20 Aug 2012 - 7:46 AM


Quote: I wondered whether a b&w would work but as I'm so hopeless at converting to mono I dismissed the idea! So thanks for your mono conversion Albert. I think it works, don't you?
Ann

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As a long time fan of black 'n white YES I do Ann. Smile

Albert

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20 Aug 2012 - 9:27 AM

Truly wonderful, full of nostalgia.

Regards.

Bob

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JohnChambersPhotography

Superb sky good rule of thirds looks and works well, nice detail well presented.

John

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20 Aug 2012 - 6:43 PM

very suggestive
nicely composed too

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20 Aug 2012 - 8:25 PM

I like it as is Ann re composition - a well balanced image for me........... Mono mod looks good.
Brian.

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