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I learned from Lynne that Saturday is shadow day, so I found a photo with a lot of "shadow" on it, maybe too much shadow....
This is two photos merged image. Actually, only the bird was put on from a previous photo that was shot at the same time. (I'll put the bird photo on the MOD section for you to have a look).
This is part of my learning & understanding of light, I'd like to have your thoughts about this photo, anything..I wonder if the shadow part is too dark, but the same thought about balance made me leave it as it is.
The photo was taken near the cliff in Whitby, I saw a seagull flying over, I gave a shot, but the photo didn't look much of anything. So I changed shutter speed to 8000, I got a shot of the bird. After the bird flew away, as I kept walking I did this second shot of the sun. Put the bird on the second shot yesterday with layer mask..Thanks for looking, all comments and criticisms are welcome.

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 50D
Lens:EF-S18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:18 Sep 2012 - 2:26 PM
Focal Length:150mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/5.7
Aperture:f/5.6
Shutter Speed:1/8000sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:125
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Partial
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:As Shot
Title:Fo r shadow day..
Username:xwang xwang
Uploaded:17 Nov 2012 - 11:33 AM
Tags:Digitally manipulated, Landscape / travel, Wildlife / nature
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Tibetan
Tibetan  2 England
17 Nov 2012 - 1:05 PM

Neat shot like it! big shadow against a blue sky with the Gull in silhouette, regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

Hermanus
Hermanus  2 South Africa
17 Nov 2012 - 2:01 PM

Now this should satisfy the most addicted shadowholic Smile Great photo Grin

paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 4:03 PM

Strong idea. I would crop a bit off the bottom and, as you added the bird, I would have made it father bigger, at least double.

Paul

barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 6barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 4:19 PM

works well for me as is

xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 4:52 PM

Thank you Paul. Advice is taken..
Thank you all..

pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8770 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1599 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 7:50 PM

I quite like both shots, Jasmine, the one uploaded and the one in the modifications section too.
I can, however, see why you chose to put the bird into the other one because the light of the sun brightens that area and also illuminates the bottom cloud.
I cannot see, however, why you didn't place the bird within that light, or even nearer to it, and then you would have been able to use the Rule Of Thirds to place the gull on the thirds intersection, or thereabouts. As it stands, the gull is over to the right of your image, and it can look better if placed more to the left, with more space in front of it than behind it.
I have done some modifications. The first places the bird just above the sun, on a thirds intersection. You will also notice that I cropped the image, eliminating a fair bit of the blackness at the bottom, and either side. I also cloned out the small birds on the left, which just look like small black dots.
The second mod is just meant to take Paul's idea, so I increased the size of the bird.
The third mod is from your picture under the mods section, the one that you took the bird from. I cropped, adjusted levels and once again used the Rule Of Thirds for composition.
The framing is simply to size the images for the required 600 pixels on EPZ mods.
Pamela.

xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 11:41 PM

Thank you very much Pamela for your MODsSmile.
Rule of third... oh..I really didn't think of the rules..Why I put it there? Possiblely:
a) I put the bird there because it was roughly the same place as it was taken on the original photo,and there is a space.. didn't think a great deal.
b) The bird image's title in my mind was 'away from the clouds', so subconsciously, it was still 'away'.
c) There is a white edge at the back of the bird, that was the light, so I thought that the light source should still be at the back.
Initially the composition of this image was taking the advantage of the curve of the cliff, made the shadow part and light part nearly half/half..felt like they could be folded as an triangle from the diagonal line..
Thanks again for your kind help,Pamela.

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