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Many thanks to all of you who CC'd on my last upload. I hope you have all had a wonderful celebration of the new year.
I have plenty of Africa pictures to come but thought I would try a little change - these were taken a couple of weeks ago at Blue Anchor Bay. I really just went for a walk with my grandchilren so was not carrying a tripod. The light was very low but the sky dramatic and I thought I could get a couple of high ISO shots with lots of grain to convert to black and white and underexposed to simplify color tones. The reflected light in the evening sky from Minehead town seemed to add a touch of mystery and excitement. Vi was composed to include the girl leaning on the promenade gazing out to sea. V2 was taken a bit earlier on the beach also looking toward Minehead and is entitled 'Two'.
I took several shots of which these are probably the best, but when I converted to black and white and increased the contrast I got heavy moire type vertical banding in the dark ares of the sky on both sides. I would appreciate any advice as to why this occurred - next time I will of course capture in Black and white rather than converting, although in the past I have been happy to convert as I then have at least two options for the image.
Hope you like them. A

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D800 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:20.0 mm f/2.8
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:16 Dec 2012 - 6:46 AM
Focal Length:20mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/4.5
Shutter Speed:1/5sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:2000
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:As Shot
Title:Girl on the Promenade
Username:accipiter accipiter
Uploaded:12 Jan 2013 - 10:02 AM
Tags:Blue Anchor Bay.Sunset. Somerset. Light . Promenade. People., Landscape / travel
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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece17 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 10:05 AM

I recognised Minehead in the distance immediately, Arthur, so good to see it again Smile Two lovely images. Carol

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andylea
andylea  537 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 10:22 AM

wonderful comp and light belting sky v2 for me today love the colours and tones a cracker nice one Wink
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abeeror2
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12 Jan 2013 - 10:24 AM

Love them all!

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debu
debu  4 India
12 Jan 2013 - 10:29 AM

Lovely set of images.
debu

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EAS
EAS  5 Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 10:44 AM

I'm strongly biased towards colour at any time but have to say, think something is lost with the mono. It's those delicate tones in V1 and V2 which really tick the boxes with V2 being perhaps just that bit even more appealing.

Ann

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bobsblues
bobsblues e2 Member 4bobsblues vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 10:56 AM

V1 for me a cracker of a shot .
rob

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4139 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland111 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 11:15 AM

I can't answer the question you pose, but I can admire your shots from an rather threatening day weatherwise: like Ann, I feel V 2 has the greatest impact, more detail in the clouds retained compared to V 3.
Shall come back later to see if anyone has answered your query.
Ronnie.

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Joline
Joline e2 Member 8Joline vcard United States51 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 11:36 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

V2 is so very beautiful, it tops the mono by a mile.
In answer to your question this article my help:
Quote: Banding is caused by the failure of an algorithm during an image conversion, such as switching to a new color mode. If too many near-identical image tones spread out farther than its computational area, the algorithm can fail, and the conversion may produce tonal edges called bands. To eliminate banding, use the Add Noise filter to add pixel variation to adjacent tones.

http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=3...
It is a very informative article by Doug Nelson.

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41050 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England136 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 12:14 PM

v1 for me, Arthur, the noise/grain adds to the atmosphere. A lovely lead in, and beautiful pastel colours, the glow of the town lights being the cream. Smile

Dave

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12 Jan 2013 - 1:36 PM

These are all superb and worthy of their own uploads.

Ken

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Tibetan
Tibetan  2 England
12 Jan 2013 - 2:32 PM

I have always found for black and white it is best to shoot in that mode, I also found banding converting from colour so try to avoid doing it unless bright strong colours, then it's not so bad! low light brings problems for me anyway. I like V1. and the rail leading to the girl works very well, like the sky and nice colours, regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin plus I agree with Ken.Grin

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Maiwand
Maiwand e2 Member 7Maiwand vcard England69 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 2:43 PM


Quote: V2 is so very beautiful, it tops the mono by a mile.
In answer to your question this article my help: Banding is caused by the failure of an algorithm during an image conversion, such as switching to a new color mode. If too many near-identical image tones spread out farther than its computational area, the algorithm can fail, and the conversion may produce tonal edges called bands. To eliminate banding, use the Add Noise filter to add pixel variation to adjacent tones.
http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=3...
It is a very informative article by Doug Nelson.

Three super shots Arthur and I did not know the answer to your query so I am pleased to read Jolines comment.
Ron

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accipiter
accipiter e2 Member 4accipiter vcard England57 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 4:00 PM

Thanks to all for the cc's and special thanks to Joline for such an informative article explaining my problem with the banding. A

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12 Jan 2013 - 4:47 PM

V3 for me although I would crop off most of the sky

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Rende
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12 Jan 2013 - 5:54 PM

Strong composition and beautiful tones.
Rende

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helenlinda e2 Member 7337 forum postshelenlinda vcard United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
12 Jan 2013 - 9:46 PM

I really like v2 here Arthur - reminds me of a quiet beach I know well on the Yorkshire coast SmileSmile
Helen

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13 Jan 2013 - 10:35 AM

V1 and v2 are two excellent examples of the coast in winter, the composition in v1 where you've used the curve of the seawall as a lead in particularly appeals

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brownsilent
brownsilent e2 Member 7brownsilent vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jan 2013 - 4:22 PM

V2 it is this time. Smile Beautiful compositions in both, V1 and V2,
Johanna

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13 Jan 2013 - 8:23 PM

A lovely bending line in v1

Peter

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