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goitstock main waterfall from the waterfall trail which starts at harden in west yorkshire tried to show the autumn colours any comments welcolme

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 60D
Lens:EF-S17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:11 Nov 2012 - 4:55 PM
Focal Length:17mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0
Aperture:f/16.0
Shutter Speed:5sec
Exposure Comp:-2/3
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:goitstock 1
Username:mattybrooks mattybrooks
Uploaded:13 Nov 2012 - 11:16 PM
Tags:General, Landscape / travel
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canonfan
canonfan e2 Member 4canonfan vcard United Kingdom
13 Nov 2012 - 11:27 PM

A beautiful scene with wonderful colour and well composed
Jim

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phil99
phil99 e2 Member 744 forum postsphil99 vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
13 Nov 2012 - 11:43 PM

Nicely composed image .like the colour/tones in this especially . Maybe you could get a little more information of colour in that quite dark area to the right hand side of the waterfall by using shadows and highlights or dodging a little in Photoshop, Good to see you have joined up to Ephotozine . To be honest I respect it more than some of the judges we have had recently .....Phil

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debu  4 India
14 Nov 2012 - 12:02 AM

Lovely image with nice foreground details.
debu

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salopian e2 Member 2salopian vcard United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2012 - 10:41 AM

A most attractive image with plenty of sharp detail from front to back - nice work. I would reduce the blue content a little to bring out the autumn colours even more and rotate it slightly to the left, but these are minor quibbles. I have loaded a mod to show what I mean, though I may have overdone the colour adjustment a bit.

Geoff

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10903 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2899 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2012 - 2:12 PM

Welcome to EPZ Matthew.

This is a well composed shot, and a lovely scene. Exposure looks quite good.

Geoff has pointed out one area that can be improved, or corrected, and thats white balance, which here, has caused a blue colour cast to the shot. Its especially apparent when you look at the waterfall, - you should see some white, and its all blue tinted. The best way to avoid this, since youve clearly gone to a lot of trouble to find the place and set up a long exposure, is to ALWAYS shoot in RAW, not JPEG; this gives you complete control over white balance in post processing as well as every other parameter you can imagine. So effectively, you have a cool white balance, rather than one that should be warmer. You did try a manual setting too, and this would likely have been a cloudy setting.

Addressing the blue cast is best done using colour balance, where you will find that reducing blue is done by increasing red and yellow, rather that reducing the blue intensity using the colour adjustment.

I did it by opening the image in Camera raw, and using the white balance tool to select the brightest part of the waterfall.

Thats really the main tweak for this. Theres that small area top left that burned out, - you did try to compensate with a -5/3, but you could clone over it in Photoshop so it doesnt attract attention.

I have uploaded a mod to show you what I mean. If you scroll up this page and click the modifications tab you will see all mods. Ive been talking about Photoshop, - so its a good idea also for you to let us know what software you use, and how competent you are, so we can tailor feedback for you.

Hope you find this constructive, and enjoy the site.

regards


Willie

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mattybrooks
14 Nov 2012 - 2:29 PM

Hi every one thanks for the comments and suggestions i think the problem with the blue cast is my monitor at home is calibrated with a spyder thingy looking at it at work it looks darker and bluer than at home lol

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paulbroad
paulbroad  782 forum posts United Kingdom860 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2012 - 8:06 PM

Nice composition but the water at the falls looks like crude nitric acid. You do have a very heavy blue cast and if your monitor is correctly calibrated you should see that. The image you are saving has that cast to look so blue here and on your work machine.

As Willue correctly says, RAW will give more scope for correction, but do ensure you are fully practiced at RAW processing before relying totally on it.

The best bet is to shoot a nice standard scene with RAW+ best jpg, then process the RAW file to look correct alongside thd jpg. RAW processing is a skill to learn and many jump into it witout full understanding of tones, contrast, the colour wheel and other related items.

The learning never stops.

Paul

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