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This bunch of grapes is on a vine bought today, and is about 2" in length.

Taken in natural light, f2.8, 1/640.

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Lens:Sigma 105mm Macro
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:Grapes
Username:crookymonsta crookymonsta
Uploaded:21 Jun 2009 - 10:03 PM
Tags:Flowers & plants
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Group Event:Critique Buddies June 2009 - 3

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Neeka
Neeka  5 Wales
21 Jun 2009 - 10:50 PM

Gorgeous image.
~Necia~

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Bob_V
Bob_V  6 United States2 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 1:41 AM

Great focusing, a wonderful shot.
Bob

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PattiW
PattiW e2 Member 8PattiW vcard United States2 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 2:38 AM

Superb green on green! Has such a cool feel and at 93' here today I could sit here and look at this till night time! God bless, Patti

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece16 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 5:23 AM

Good luck in the wine-making! Well captured and love the green on green. Carol

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EAS
EAS e2 Member 5EAS vcard Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 8:39 AM

Delcious! Lovely gentle looking image.

Ann

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goso
goso e2 Member 7goso vcard Australia1 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 9:12 AM

Well done Sandra - .......Bill

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Picture_Newport
22 Jun 2009 - 11:50 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Nice chioce of subject.

Despite the Grapes being a similar tone and colour to the background they still stand out as being separate and the diagonal the Grapes are set at is nice, I do feel you cpould have gone for more of a diagonal though, perhaps with the bottom grape being in the bottom left corner of the frame and the brown stem being in the top right corner.

I am struggling to find the point of focus though, it does not leap out at you (which I am surprised at because looking at your PF you seem to like macro work and your focusing is spot on in your other piccies). I think you could have maybe been bolder and gone in closer and concentrated on a single grape rather than the bunch, either that or have tried to get the entire bunch in sharp focus with only the background out of focus.

Lovely colours and I like the little highlights on each of the grapes.

Paul

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tomcat
tomcat e2 Member 85873 forum poststomcat vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 2:59 PM

they would look better in a bottle Wink

Adrian

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Fishnet
Fishnet  104976 forum posts United Kingdom5 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 10:45 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

OK, here goes my critique, never done it before so ....

I love the colour green but I would prefer a darker background to make the grapes stand out more, not necessarily a black background or anything but just a few shades darker than it is already.

I love the fact you've used natural daylight and not an on camera flash, I have such a hatred for on camera flash I feel my blood physically boil when I see it in photos.

I feel the grapes are a bit 'soft' without much texture and no definite sharpness of focus, maybe wetting them first to catch the light and brighten them up could be an idea and I'd also like to see you go in a bit closer too or else change the composition of the grapes rather than having them straight down the middle in a line.

Hope that was OK, please don't hate me!

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1578 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jun 2009 - 10:46 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Sorry, Sandra, I nearly passed this by, which is what I often do if I don't particularly like a picture, which is not a good thing, and you know that I usually say what I think. I feel bad about that. Then I saw that it was in the buddies category, so here goes. I, like Paul, was looking for a point of focus, but it looks to be all very much the same. There is definitely a small depth of field because the back grapes are blurred. I don't think the background does it any favours because it's the same colour as the grapes. I'd like to have seen some good light on this, with some bouncing off the fruit and making them shine, giving them some life. There is some there, but it doesn't do the trick. I feel that if these were placed on, say, some black velvet, and shot at an attractive angle, the impact would be improved. I still feel like apologising for being so negative. I think a mod option would have been good, by the way.
Pamela.

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HectorRivera
23 Jun 2009 - 9:40 AM

Great contrast work on the green on green, excellent DOF

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blackbird
blackbird  7159 forum posts United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jun 2009 - 10:13 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hello sandra,
You have already had some good critiques and I will try not to repeat the others.
Looking at your portfolio I can see that you are already very adept at macro work and you have some very good flower and butterfly images. I get the impression that you tried to do something a bit different for the buddy upload but didn't move far enough out of your comfort zone, by that I mean your subject is different but the approach is similar to your previous work - that's easy for me to say but I'm also trying to do something different to my usual style, and I know it's much harder to actually do satisfactorily.
You could perhaps try getting in closer with a wider aperture to get a more impressionist view of your subject, or alternatively try a more 'studio' approach by controlling the lighting with reflectors and using a tripod to maximise dof.
I hope that provides some food for thought
merille

Last Modified By blackbird at 23 Jun 2009 - 10:13 PM

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crookymonsta
crookymonsta e2 Member 6685 forum postscrookymonsta vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jun 2009 - 11:21 AM

A very big thankyou to new buddies and old friends for some excellent critiques and advice. Since posting this image I have been looking at some of the other buddy images and Merille is absolutely right - my choice of subject was too close to familiar territory and I didn't even do that as well as I could have.
Sandra

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GazW
GazW e2 Member 6GazW vcard Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jun 2009 - 4:06 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

There are a number of "buddy" crits already so I'll do mine without reading them so that I'm not influenced.

Anyway, I like the idea but it doesn't quite work for me. since the grapes don't stand out enough I think it's because the background is too similar and the depth of field either too small or too large. What I'm trying to say (I think !) is that a smaller depth of field would have emphasised a few of the grapes with the rest fading out whilst a larger dof would have kept most of the bunch in focus against the background. Either would have worked better for me.

Also, the line is quite right, perhaps a slightly more diagonal composition would have led the eye better.

Finally, if you could just clone out the tiny distraction in the top right ?

Having said all of that - I still like it and am being ultra-critical. Hope that's OK ?

Gaz

PS just read the other crits - they seem to say much the same only they've phrased it better !!

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tigertimb  640 forum posts United Kingdom66 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jun 2009 - 8:15 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Sandra
I'll try not to rehash some of the exisiting "buddy" critique; although I think I agree with most of it with the exception of the green-on-green which I personally really like as it's still distinctive enough that the grapes stand out.
My big question to you would be "what were you trying to achieve" with this image. With the grapes central and cropped fairly tight, all I get is "here's a bunch of grapes" which I think is where the others are saying it's missing a point of focus. A little bit of play with the DOF, POV or composition could have lifted the shot entirely and given it a bit more of a story to tell.
But none of this is to say that it's a bad shot and it's not a critique I'd level at your shots in general either - almost as though you uploaded a shot to give us something to say Wink

Tim

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crookymonsta
crookymonsta e2 Member 6685 forum postscrookymonsta vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jun 2009 - 8:41 PM

Ah, Tim, you caught me out! Seriously though, give me a flower or a butterfly and I think I know what I am doing now, I was looking for something I wouldn't find so straightforward and it seems I succeeded. I have had another go today with another unfamiliar subject and hopefully have learned something from all of you.
Sandra

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Les_G
Les_G  6148 forum posts Scotland4 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jun 2009 - 1:06 PM

Love the colour, good idea to have same overall tone. From the thumbnail image I thought this would be a good kitchen poster.

Maybe some stronger lighting to give greater definition to some of the grapes at the front would help.

The main problem I have with this image is the main centre grape is not sharp, which I find distracting. I would also remove the small bit of twig at the top right which being lighter draws the eye away from the main bunch.

Not a bad image and these are really 'picky' points.

Cheers,
Les.

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