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Another shot from my shoot with my friend in Hatifield Forest. Another with single Vivitar 283 at full power, high up left of camera into reflective umbrella, sunlight to the right of camera, f8-9ish. I really quite like this one, but I know you shouldn't be the best judge of your own shots, so happy to take crit and comment as usual.

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Lens:18-55mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Hatfield Forest 2
Username:johnnyboy114 johnnyboy114
Uploaded:27 Apr 2010 - 4:33 PM
Tags:Fashion, Flash, Flash / lighting, Forest, Hatfield, Model, Portrait, Portraits / people, Sunlight
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beckas
beckas  10 United States1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Apr 2010 - 4:55 PM

This turned out really good. I really enjoyed viewing the entire set on FB and I have to say, I couldn't pick a favourite because you took a lot of great images during this shoot.

Last Modified By beckas at 27 Apr 2010 - 4:56 PM

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johnnyboy114
27 Apr 2010 - 5:02 PM

Thanks Becka....I made a mistake in uploading ALL of those images....I didn't mean to but had loads of upload errors and when I eventually had an album, I didn't realise there was over 100 images in there! lol! I deleted loads now, so there are only 12, I think, but yeah, there were a lot. Some weren't so good, but hopefully only uploading the good ones and ones I need feedback on....but thank you Becka, appreciate the comments and glad you like them Smile

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27 Apr 2010 - 5:16 PM

i love this shot mate honestly. Its a natural relaxed portrait, that is well lit and evenly balanced. Kudos to you mate, mine weren't this good when i started

rgds
Dave

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johnnyboy114
27 Apr 2010 - 5:23 PM

Wow, thanks Dave. Appreciate that! I really like this one too. I have had to have a play around and spent months reading and watching teaching vids and so on before I decided to actually take the plunge and have a go. I was a bit nervous, but after a bit of playing about, I started to get the hang of it. I did get some real howlers too, but all learning I guess! Helps when you have good models who know what they are doing too! lol!

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Morgs  6 Wales62 Constructive Critique Points
27 Apr 2010 - 5:50 PM

This is better than yesterday's!! I really like the use of the flash in these sunny conditions. It poses the question in my mind as to whether you have dropped her into a background. That's because the lighting gives this an almost 3D look. But, combined with the bright day, the lack of obvious shadows make for a crisp stylish shot. I think you've nailed this technique!!

Dave

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johnnyboy114
27 Apr 2010 - 5:58 PM

lol! No Dave, my PS skills really, really wouldn't enable me to cut and paste her into a backdrop! lol! But I am glad you like the effect...I was really happy with this. I have a few shots from the same location in the forest without the flash, so you will see its real...lol! Wink But these few with the lighting I was very pleased with. I have some others lower down in the perspective I will post as the week goes on. There are so many I was pleased with, I dont know which to pick! But hope I have got a handle on the technique now....getting there....glad you like it and appreciate the comment! Thanks! Smile

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Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England209 Constructive Critique Points
27 Apr 2010 - 7:16 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Nice work John, the model looks comfortable and relaxed and the lighting has worked well. However for me the sapling to the RHS is not adding a lot it may be better to do a square crop and remove - so it focus you more on the model. I know that crop are a personal thing but this is just a suggestion

Regards Richard

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johnnyboy114
27 Apr 2010 - 7:17 PM

Thanks Richard, appreciate the comment! Glad you like

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jools59
jools59  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Apr 2010 - 9:34 PM

An absolutely superb shot Johnny another one to be proud of me thinks...Jools Smile

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TheWanderer
27 Apr 2010 - 9:57 PM

Nicely done John. Thats one cool model.
Agree with the crop and also (and you know me, over the top Smile ) I would clone out the bird dropping on the stump.

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paola1987
paola1987  4 Italy
28 Apr 2010 - 10:05 AM

every photo is better than the last, this one looks so professional, i think you have learned a very good lighting technique without too many expensive studio gadgets, very well done!

Quote: I would clone out the bird dropping on the stump.

hehehe... these birds are always creating a mess! I agree.
I can see this picture as a commercial poster for a jeans company or maybe Timberland shoes or jackets
Paola

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paola1987  4 Italy
28 Apr 2010 - 10:06 AM

She has such beautiful hair! "envy" Sad

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MattyEdwards
28 Apr 2010 - 10:09 AM

She is a good natural model and you are capturing here well. Good use of daylight and flash. I would be tempted to drop the power of the flash slightly. I agree the sampling is competing for attention though.

Keep them coming

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 10:18 AM

Thank you Jools, much obliged! Jon, I do know you and I guess you are right on this one.... Wink I will have another look and upload some variations I reckon....
Paola, wow, I wish I could get into advertising! lol! But thats a very nice compliment, thank you! It is a cheap way of doing things, but is quite effective I think. Thank you! The bird mess is a theme here....typical me for missing it! lol! Her hair is very nice too. Has almost a red tint to the blonde. Its very pretty.
Matty, I would agree with the flash, but by fully adjustable ones weren't powerful enough at all, even on full power, yet although the 283's are VERY powerful, they aren't adjustable, with only 4 power settings. The next power level down didn't register, even at wide open for that lens, so I had to compromise. The drop off for the sunlight was really quite sharp too, so had to get in close, hence the slight blow out. Was a bit annoyed when I got them back on the computer as they looked reasonable on my camera, even on the histogram, but you're right, there is definitely a touch of blow on the face, which is annoying.
Can I ask what you mean by sampling competing for attention though? I am being a bit thick...lol! Smile

Another one coming this afternoon....might make it a "non flash" shot this time....see what you think..... Smile

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paola1987
paola1987  4 Italy
28 Apr 2010 - 10:33 AM

I think he means sapling? the little tree on the right of the picture, I found it on the dictionary Wink now i know a new word!! Smile

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 10:35 AM

AHHHH!!! Thank you Paola! See....what a place eh? Not only good pictures, but educational too! lol! Speaking English every day, I just didn't see that......right, good point! I am going to try and do some crops and edits later and upload them.....

Question to everyone......if I upload variations to this image, do they count as your one upload for the day or can you upload another image separately.....? I would like to upload another image later, but also want to have a play with variations on this as well......

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MattyEdwards
28 Apr 2010 - 12:17 PM

I did indeed mean sapling, my hand, eye, keyboard skills are not all there today

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 1:12 PM

lol! No worries, I am going to try something later, just hope I can upload another new image as well as variations on this one Smile

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 5:12 PM

I have now uploaded a "square" version to compare against the original. I like it actually and see what you all mean....let me know what you think please? Smile

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TheWanderer
28 Apr 2010 - 5:36 PM

Yep that definitely works better. I would upload it separately to get more attention, which i think this will. Smile

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 6:21 PM

You think? I might do that towards the end of this series then and see what happens. Really? Blimey......lol!

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TheWanderer
28 Apr 2010 - 6:40 PM

If it doesn't then i'll take a pic of my backside and put it on the gallery. Now that should get the attention. Smile Maybe get me into the club. Wink

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 7:06 PM

lol! Nope, wouldn't do that......bad things happened last time someone did that.....lol! Wink

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TheWanderer
28 Apr 2010 - 7:25 PM

lol Smile

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Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England209 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2010 - 8:39 PM

Think the square crop works well with this one Johnny.
Regards Richard

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johnnyboy114
28 Apr 2010 - 9:01 PM

Thanks Richard, if it wasn't for the advice I wouldn't have seen it or done it, so thanks you and thanks all for that. But agree, yeah, works...

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paola1987
paola1987  4 Italy
29 Apr 2010 - 10:06 AM

I also agree it is better cropped we pay more atention on the beautiful model without the distraction of the sapling (hehe i love using the new word now) great job i also agree that if you will repost it in the future it will get more atention.
oh yoiu even cleaned the bird poop! it is also a good modification
Paola

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johnnyboy114
29 Apr 2010 - 10:15 AM

lol! Thanks Paola....the bird poop had to go! lol! But yeah, the mod does make a big difference and I wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't for all the advice. Glad you like this better! Thanks you! Smile

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Ridgeway  7222 forum posts Ireland2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Apr 2010 - 2:48 AM

N,2 for me but do like both shots,

Aidan,,

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johnnyboy114
30 Apr 2010 - 7:25 AM

Cheers Aidan! Appreciated!

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tommythecat
5 May 2010 - 6:36 PM

Excellent series! We rushed out to Hatfield Forest the other day just to see what it was like without planes overhead all the time..

Agree the tighter crop works well. Have attached a slightly moodier mod.

Best,
Tommy

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johnnyboy114
5 May 2010 - 8:31 PM

Cheers Tommy! Appreciate the comment! And I like the mod, a lot more gritty, like it. Cheers! Oh and it was just when the flights started back up....was bit miffed by that as thought a completely spotless sky would have been nice.....doesn't happen very often!

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studioline
27 May 2010 - 11:15 PM

Not for me Johnny. I feel that shadows add the dimension into an image.

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74tash
74tash  5 Australia
12 Oct 2010 - 3:37 PM

It has all been said... I can learn something from every post... Thanks you!

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