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This is another with a change of clothes. I stopped down a touch to minimise flash glare as I got a touch closer in this, so not sure if I have over done it as she doesn't really "pop" from the photo as she does in the others, but it is slightly better balanced with the sky and background. I know there is a sapling near her foot and she also has a bit of tree sticking out of the side of her head by her hand, which I was a touch annoyed by as I didn't see it when I took the shot, but my PS skills aren't up to scratch enough to be able to do anthing about that and make it convincing really. So will have to make do. Let me know what you think. Crit and comments as usual, always welcome.

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Lens:18-55mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Hatfield Forest 9
Username:johnnyboy114 johnnyboy114
Uploaded:4 May 2010 - 5:09 PM
Tags:Flash / lighting, Portraits / people, Wildlife / nature
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PauloNascimentoPhotography

Another nice one Johnny, excellent work!
Paulo

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johnnyboy114
4 May 2010 - 5:23 PM

Cheers Paolo! Thanks!

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dathersmith
dathersmith e2 Member 7544 forum postsdathersmith vcard England12 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 5:26 PM

Nice one Johnny, like her expression and the lighting looks good to me.

Darren.

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johnnyboy114
4 May 2010 - 5:28 PM

Cheers Darren, glad you like!

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Carrie_1
Carrie_1  4 Wales6 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 6:22 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

In my mod I have used a channel mask as a basis for adding some lens blur to make the background look more out of focus, I also used a layer mask to bring back the shapness to the forground to make it appear more natural. Caroline

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johnnyboy114
4 May 2010 - 6:33 PM

Carrie, thats excellent! The look I wanted to get naturally, but due to the lighting positioning restrictions I had, I couldn't open the lends up wide enough, so thank you for that! I love it! I have no idea, even though you explained, how you did it, but its a cracking effect. Thanks for that!

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Carrie_1
Carrie_1  4 Wales6 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 6:40 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I selected your model then used that selection to make a channel mask, I then used the blur/lens blur (in photoshops filters) to blur the background slightly.
Caroline

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johnnyboy114
4 May 2010 - 6:41 PM

Right oh, going to take a picture and see if I can play around with it to figure it out. Sounds useful...thanks for that! Smile

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Morgs
Morgs  5 Wales62 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 7:53 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I like the lighting on this John, but I can see what you mean by the effect of 'popping' her having been lost. I don't think this is up there with the best of the series mind. She doesn't look entirely comfortable in this pose. Her right hand looks as if it's taking the majority of her weight, and her hand does look uncomfortable. Her eye contact with you and the angle again make for an aestheitically pleasing portrait, and I imagine she she is very happy with the series in general. You've made her look very good.

By the way, it was very easy to remove the tree. A simple use of the cloning tool with a soft brush. I reduced the opacity to 75% and then sourced from the blue sky directly next to the tree and chipped away until it was gone. I didn't touch her hair. have a go, it's a lot easier than you might imagine.

Dave

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User_Removed
4 May 2010 - 8:09 PM

i like it mate as i think she makes a great model. As Morg says maybe the pose is a little stiff and uncomfortable but i have a few of them in my PF, we live and learn mate. Still worth the upload

rgds
Dave

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johnnyboy114
4 May 2010 - 8:32 PM

Morgs, cheers for that. I did a touch of that in a more difficult place on the uncropped version to try out my cloning skills. It was on a branch of a tree just creeping in. It was fine with the single colour and tone stuff to clone, but I really struggled with the other stuff. I got a bit worried I was going to make a mess, so I didn't bother with the stuff round the hair....maybe I should have! lol! Strangely, I did almost the same as you said....75% and soft brush, so maybe I should just have a touch more faith in myself.

To both Dave's, yeah, the pose was her idea and she wanted to do a series of something like this....it looked Ok when we were doing it, but looking back on it, its not the strongest. And the "pop" is missing, so should have left the settings the same as before really. Oh well, you live and learn and like you say Dave, worth uploading simply to get the feedback and know I should avoid the same mistakes again. Cheers fella's, much appreciated, as always.

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tony64
tony64  10204 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 9:50 PM

Hi Johnny, this is a cracker! I like David's mod (Morgs) and I think it improves it to remove the tree branches from around her head. The sapling by her foot is fine. I like the pose, even though it looks a bit uncomfortable. I think there are many poses that are (slightly) uncomfortable for the model, but still look good.
In this image your model has a lovely smile and a direct gaze that is captivating! And you have 'captured' that! So, well done! I'm enjoying this series!
Tony

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johnnyboy114
4 May 2010 - 10:12 PM

Thanks Tony! Thats really nice praise, much appreciated! Glad you like it! I agree with the thoughts about the pose, but actually, when you see a lot of modern fashion poses nowadays, not many DO look comfortable I guess. So I guess its in the eye of the beholder really. Glad you like it though! And thanks regarding the "capture" as well....I just tried to get her to relax and have a laugh, even though she did know what she was doing! lol! It does help! Smile

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jools59  4 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2010 - 10:25 PM

I agree with most thats been said Johnny...take it all to your next shoot...im sure we have much more to see from you...well done...jools...Smile

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johnnyboy114
5 May 2010 - 7:14 AM

Thanks Jools! All goes int the knowledgebank! Smile

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Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England205 Constructive Critique Points
5 May 2010 - 4:04 PM

Agree with Morgs on the models pose not looking relaxed - also a good learning point is alway look around the view find to check the background before pressing the button.
Regards Richard

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johnnyboy114
5 May 2010 - 4:37 PM

I agree, she kept toppling over, but she insisted on doing something like this, so I went with it and thought it might look Ok. Wasn't sure, but worth an upload. As for looking around, yeah, I was just lazy and more concerned about her falling off the tree stump! But fair point. Thank again!

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paola1987
paola1987  4 Italy
6 May 2010 - 10:25 AM

nice different pose, glad she did not fall off Smile
i like also both mods, it would be great to mix them, have the blured background with the cloned tree near her hair
one question, she had many clothes that day, where did she change???
it also seems cold did she not freeze?
Paola

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johnnyboy114
6 May 2010 - 10:37 AM

lol! She took loads of clothes with her and she just hid behind trees or standing behind me (I had my back turned.... lol! )! There wasn't many people around, so she was fairly safe and she did that girly thing of being able to change without actually taking any clothes of most of the time! lol! It wasn't cold though, it was a lovely warm day, so she was fine....and she didn't fall off, but she DID have the light stand fall on her head a couple of times! lol!

As for the image, yeah, I agree with what you say about mixing the mods....that would be great, but again my Photoshop skills let me down....glad you like it though...this one I am not too sure about still. Different though.... Smile

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paulnemo
paulnemo  7 United Kingdom
22 May 2010 - 6:04 PM

Nicely lit, great colour

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johnnyboy114
22 May 2010 - 6:07 PM

Thanks Paul!

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Esge
Esge  5 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2011 - 10:31 PM

The sapling is nothing and the branch wasn't really noticeable until you mentioned it! I really like this and looking through the images, you've got the consistent style that many people crave for. The balance is great too and I like this as it definately looks more natural (balanced..and I don't mean it looks sooc Wink ). Great angle too although if I would have liked to have seen a more open shot - not so close...but saying that, I love it.

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johnnyboy114
6 Mar 2011 - 8:13 AM

Thanks again. Really appreciate the comment and good and constructive. Thanks!

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