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My second attempt at a panoramic. It's a bit brighter and breezier than my norm, but it's going up anyway.

This was taken last night up at Higger Tor in the early evening light. A stitch of 11 portrait shots making an approx 180 degree pan. I have now bought the Panorama factory software, and this is my first attempt at using it. Manual exposure set and used across all frames, and cloudy WB used.

I must thank Dave Peck (dp) again for his most excellent advise on using this software. Hope I've done it justice Dave!

Lee 0.9 Hard Grad used

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Title:HIGGER TOR
Username:martinl martinl
Uploaded:5 Jun 2007 - 8:13 PM
Camera:Canon EOS 300D
Lens:EX HSM 10-20mm@ 20mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Tags:Digitally manipulated, General, Higger tor, Landscape / travel, Panoramic, Peak district
Votes:20

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On a positive side Martin, you've done a great job on the stitching and keeping the exposure throughout the scene. However, I don't think it falls into your better work. Perhaps because your standards have been very high of late, I think you have better to offer. I don't think its a bad shot, just not your best. Sorry, and I'm sure many will disagree, but I'm just trying to give an honest opinion.

Steve!

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SH2006
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5 Jun 2007 - 8:39 PM
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great panoramic shot martin. lovely light and composition.

click.

martinl
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5 Jun 2007 - 8:44 PM
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I would agree entirely Steve. It doesn't have the same light and mood as my most recent shots (I have been very lucky on that front!), but I wanted to post it anyway to see what people thought of this type of panoramic shot in this light. I was a bit nervous of shooting this any later, because I didn't want to mess up the exposure. I suppose it's a bit safe!

Martin

How do you find the 'Panorama Factory' software Martin? I tried a few last year using RealViz but I found it a bit cumbersome and awkward to use.
I am planning on getting a few more landscapes in again later this year and I aim to try out a few panoramic shots, so any views on the software would be great.

Steve!

martinl
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5 Jun 2007 - 9:08 PM
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I find it works very well. Dave Peck sent me a short guide on how to use it (the way he does, and his pans work really well!). He uses a pan head, but I have just used my normal pan/tilt head at 20mm focal length, and it works fine. The last bit takes a bit of time, but I have found the stitching to be really good.

The other thing is you can download a 30 day trial (but with watermarks) and to buy only costs about £43.00, which is pretty good value I think. If you want any more info, please PM me.

Cheers
Martin

Cheers Martin. Thanks for that.

Steve!

sut68
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5 Jun 2007 - 9:32 PM
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I have to agree with Steve, Martin, a bit ordinary compared to your stuff of late ... you've set a high standard recently and the light in this doesn't really come close to that. Well stitched and seen and worth a click for that, but in your own words a bit "safe" ... sorry mate Wink

keithh
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5 Jun 2007 - 9:47 PM
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a good stutch job but if you look at it purely as an image, martin it has no focal point

martinl
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5 Jun 2007 - 10:49 PM
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No need to apologise Paul, I know you well enough to know you say what you see (in the words of Roy Walker!!). Cheers Keith, thanks for your tuppence worth, always appreciated.

So OK on a technical basis but "could do better", bit like my school reports!!
Wink

sut68
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5 Jun 2007 - 11:22 PM
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Phew, glad I didn't offend Wink

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LesF
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6 Jun 2007 - 8:38 AM
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Congratulations for having a go and posting it, I think it’s called the learning curve. I am sure in the not to distant future you will crack it Martin.
Thanks for sharing and yes your standard is high but you are allowed a blip now and again.

Les F

martinl
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6 Jun 2007 - 10:02 AM
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No chance Paul!!
Thanks Les.
Wink

I think you should see the comments above as a testament to the quality of your recent uploads Martin. I understand the ordinary comments but actually this captures the flatness of Higger Tor well. I think Keith has nailed the issue about the focal point but this is an effective stitch and well exposed throughout.
Nick

martinl
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6 Jun 2007 - 3:58 PM
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Thanks Nick. I do take it as a compliment, and can also see what Keith means. You are also right about the flat expanse of Higger, but maybe there was a better composition to be had up here. I shall go back and try again at some point. Maybe in more flattering light, and when I get more confident with panoramics, and what works and what doesn't work. As you know, I don't like to be beaten!

chris-p
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6 Jun 2007 - 4:12 PM
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Got my respect for a good stitch job..its not that easy...i have tried a failed miserably
Chris

Maddie
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6 Jun 2007 - 5:14 PM
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go for it martin Smile

tomcat
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6 Jun 2007 - 5:45 PM
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The last time I saw this view there was snow on the ground

Adrian

martinl
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6 Jun 2007 - 6:56 PM
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Thank you.

Will do Maddie!!
Smile

dp
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6 Jun 2007 - 10:23 PM
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Ok, so we learn from the above that you have cracked the software and how to shoot these, you just need to tune into what to shoot. I would say look at Keith and Pauls pfs but what I have learnt is that you need something either end and something on one of the thirds (exposure 4 or 6), and unless its a shot about mood you need a bit of interest in every frame. They are so difficult to see properly. Also, less is more sometimes. For me, this one loses it because of the huge shadow and its not light you normally shoot in. Now you have seen how easy it is mate, go and use it in your normal light.
Report: Martin has made excellent progress this year, conquering some difficult technical issues, his confidence is growing and with his work rate and determination it wont be long before he cracks one of these and excels in this genre C+

martinl
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6 Jun 2007 - 11:02 PM
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Cheers Dave. think you have managed to put into word exactly how I feel about these. Technically yes, just need to get the "eye" to see them now.

Wink

martin.w
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10 Jun 2007 - 9:16 PM
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Full marks for trying this out Martin, but pretty much agree with the general comments. I must say, it is interesting to see most of Higger like this. Good sky too.

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